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How to prepare for extreme cold conditions

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by DianeMN, Jan 4, 2018.

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    If you've at least got an enclosed garage, run the car in fully warmed up and shut the doors quick, that'll help a bit. That's our situation, attached but unheated/uninsulated. I keep thinking about insulating at least, it would be good in the summer too, it can get to be an oven in there. I don't think it's good for the hybrid battery sitting in that.
     
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    I wouldn't do anything to the car for three days but I would carry supplies in the car for traveling in extreme cold weather.
     
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    Since the 12V battery presumably is original equipment, hence ~4 years old, I suggest you consider a preventive replacement prior to your trip. Also, as previously suggested, make sure all tires and wiper rubber are in excellent condition and that the tires are correctly inflated. Also check the spare tire pressure and all engine compartment fluids and make sure the windshield washer reservoir has appropriate fluid for the anticipated low temps.
     
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    Something many don't think of. Those "jump starters" you carry in your car, they also suffer battery output loss when cold. Keep it in the house and take it with you when you leave. If you keep it in the car it will probably be about as good as the cars 12V battery. Are two "dead" batteries better than one? ;)
     
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    Hmmm... I don't understand how traction could start a car. Are you sure the 12v doesn't start the car? I left my lights on once and had to have someone jump it to get it started. At that point I thought it only had the one battery.
     
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    The traction battery (aka hybrid battery) gets the engine going, but if the 12 volt battery is dead, the car won't "boot up".
     
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    I do have a trickle charger I thought I'd bring, along with a long extension cord. Yes there will be cabins nearby so I should be able to plug that in. Although I'll have to study the manual to figure out how to attach it. I discovered how different jump starting a Prius is when the lights were left on overnight once. We had to watch a YouTube video first, along with using the manual!
     
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    Thanks for the instructions to cover the grill. It sounds like that will help keep it warm inside when driving (but won't help with starting after sitting overnight in frigid weather.)
     
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    Thanks, the photos really help. Does the grille blocking just make the heater do a better job keeping you warm when driving, or is there another advantage? Like better fuel economy in winter?
     
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    It helps the engine warm up faster, and raise the engine temperature. Even in our mild west coast winters, when I had a ScanGuage hooked up, through winter a lot of drives the engine never got to optimum temps, which would be around 90C. It would hover around 60~70C, this was with grill block. Cabin heat is basically piggy-backing on the engine coolant temp, so the two depend on each other.
     
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    Thank you for the clear explanation of the function of the 12v battery. So the time we had to jump it after leaving the lights on, got the 12v going so it could turn on the electronics that start the car. Yes, my experience has been that my Prius starts well in cold weather we frequently have in the winter. But I want to have a backup plan for potentially extreme cold. Who knows, it might be a balmy zero degrees F when we go.

    Thanks, that's helpful, and reassuring!

    Love your story. I'm glad I don't have to do that every night! I used to have a magnetic oil pan heater I'd plug in on really cold nights (no garage), then crawl under the car a bit to temporarily attach it to the oil pan.

    Sorry it took me awhile to respond. I thought I signed up for email notifications but didn't get any. So I was pleasantly surprised when I checked is morning to see all this great advice!

    I keep some really warm sheepskin mittens and hat, a sleeping bag and some of those hand and toe warmer one-time use packs in my car, once winter hits. You learn to adapt to conditions...

    Aha! So the main battery is called a traction battery.

    Good advice. Sounds like a trip to my dealer would be good before a trip up north. (I no longer do those things myself, especially in the cold weather we've been having recently.)

    I've never heard of that... Are they called "lithium-ion jump packs"? And would auto parts stores sell them?
     
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    not questioning your sanity, but most people had south this time of year.:cool:
     
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    Yes. One caution ... as the hoverboard craze (not to mention the Galaxy Note 7) demonstrated, lithium battery tech can be tricky to do right on the cheap, so this is one kind of product where you might want to take manufacturer reputation into account, if you're going to have one living in your glove box or rear bin.

    I got mine from Antigravity Batteries (one of the early players) and have had no trouble. You can find them on Amazon, but you'll also find reviews from at least one customer who was sent an obvious counterfeit by an Amazon seller (the customer already owned a real one and could spot the differences). I bought mine through the manufacturer's own web site, where it turns out they still have some of their original-design, really puny one, which is plenty for starting a Prius, and at an attractive price. (They can also double as USB power sources for your phone, etc.; the original design one has a single USB output, the updated one has two, I think.)

    I don't work for Antigravity, and I have no expertise on any competing brands, except that I would be wary of anything really no-name, or counterfeits of name brands.

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