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Dim headlights troubleshooting

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Braveslice, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Braveslice

    Braveslice Junior Member

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    Hello!

    My headlights, at least low beam, hard to say about high beam they might just suck big time, are dangerously dim, I had to drive behind a car and follow his back lights to be able to survive back home.

    Possible hint is that my neighbor said my back lights are brighter than cards around me. Any suggestions how to proceed? 12V battery is new. Do you know a topic here about the subject (non HID)?

    I’m wondering that I need to figure our first if I have HID headlights but I doubt that very much, and maybe to measure voltage for the bulbs. Suggestions from where I should measure the voltage, directly to the headlamp unit? It seems both lights are equally dim, I can watch straight to them without problems.
     
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    Right, after some digging:

    • My headlights are regular H4, megalite brand.
    • Fusebox measurement for low beam gives 11.55 Volts.
    • After cleaning up Android Light Meter show increase from 550 to 580 engine down so about 6%
    • Starting the car and engine running shows max value of 1200 so doubling the lux (lux but this is very much relative result), comparing to my neighbors car (Opel Astra) gives max value from about same distance quite close of 3000.
    • Plastic covering the headlamp looks a bit scratched but not too bad.
     
  3. andrewclaus

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    Did this problem appear suddenly?

    If so, a possible problem area common to both headlights is the ground point. On my wiring diagram, it's listed as being on the left suspension tower. You can also check resistance across the closed contacts (not coil) of the H-LP and DIM relays. This will require removing the relays and bench-testing them with a 12V source. (That will also give you the opportunity to check and clean the bases and sockets.)
     
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    Hi andrewclaus,

    I can’t answer to the question ”did it start suddenly” because I noticed this only the moment snow smelted away and it was dark. The snow makes even the dim lights to be enough, but I do remember thinking at one point that my car lights are ok but not great during snow period.

    Great to hear they have common grounding point that makes this problem more likely. I need to study a bit before I understand the rest you said. Talk to you later, thx!
     
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    Do I understand correctly: The DIM relay puts the lights to day time mode if light are not witched on and when rotating lights to on position full lights are on use?

    I can’t see any difference in light power when switching lights on or off.

    Edit:
    Right I got it wrong: high to low beam relay (DIM)

    It is just this text that made it sound that there is a spcial daytime lightmode when lights are not turned on.
    "When power SW is at IG ON position and the vehicle is ready to drive (READY lamp on the display in combination meter is
    on), releasing parking brake makes signal go into TERMINAL PKB of body ECU. In this condition, when light control SW is at
    Off/Tail/AUTO position (Headlight is not lit), body ECU sends daytime operation request from TERMINAL DRL/DIM to
    daytime running light relay. As a result, daytime running light relay duty–operates headlights (Dimmer than regular lighting)"
     
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    I've never had a car with daytime running lights (DRL), but I just looked it up and found out that at least one European car maker has a daytime running feature with reduced headlight brightness, so maybe you're onto something here.

    Try this: Find the 7.5A DRL fuse. It looks like it will be in the engine compartment relay block, next to one of the headlight relays labeled H-LP. Remove the fuse and test it with an ohmmeter. While it's out, see if the headlights work. If the fuse is okay, test the DRL No. 4 relay (in the relay block mounted on the cowl behind the engine.) Remove the relay and test it with a 12V source on the coil (terminals 1 and 2), checking the contact (terminals 3 and 5) with the ohmmeter.

    My wiring diagram is difficult to follow because it shows all possible options for HID lighting and daytime running lights. And my diagram is for a North American car, which may be different than yours.
     
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    Toyota has sent a notice that some prius models have a low voltage issue (actually they have very dim headlights - not legal to drive) which has been included in an "extended warranty". My 2010 prius has had a dim headlight problem since I got it in 2013 even with dealer installed bulbs. Bulbs don't last more than 6 months. Toyota, of course, has known about this very critical issue for some time and has allowed all of the wrecks which it has caused. Seems like there's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. When I returned my prius to Darcars, the local dealer, they kept it for a day, admitted to the low voltage condition and could not fix it because they said that the parts were back ordered with no known arrival date. But then they wanted to sell me some tires. The prius remains parked in my driveway until it gets fixed. I refuse to blast my brights at oncoming traffic. I should be able to charge rent for my alternate which is my work truck. Prius is the best car I know of except for this problem. Toyota?
     
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    I did not receive any notice About this. Is this a Hid light issue only or is this a G3 issue only? If so you are in the G2 forum.
    Toyota allowed wrecks?