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  1. Prodigyplace

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    I know the English language is many times ambiguous Comanies need to stop op-opting terms and changing them to mean something else. Most people would not consider this ruck as a Hybrid.
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    Using an electric lift on a diesel truck does not make it a hybrid by most common definitions.

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  2. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    My Prius all stored electrical power to reduce idle time and minimize fuel consumption. When needed they could fall back on fossil fuels.

    So does this truck. In fact, it is a plugin Hybrid.

    It is, at best a mild hybrid, as the truck is never moving solely (or at all) by electrical power. Lots of vehicles GM has slapped Hybrid stickers all over will save less fuel. BAS Hybrid - Wikipedia

    Bottom line, it is saving the worlds resource for more appropriate uses than just burning them up.

    hy·bridˈhīˌbrid/ noun: hybrid; plural noun: hybrids

    1. Biology
      the offspring of two plants or animals of different species or varieties, such as a mule (a hybrid of a donkey and a horse).
      "a hybrid of wheat and rye"
      synonyms: cross, cross-breed, mixed breed, half-breed, half-blood; More
      mixture, blend, amalgamation, combination, composite, compound, fusion
      "a hybrid between a brown and an albino mouse"

    2. a thing made by combining two different elements; a mixture.
      "the final text is a hybrid of the stage play and the film"
      • a word formed from elements taken from different languages, for example television ( tele- from Greek, vision from Latin).
      • a car with a gasoline engine and an electric motor, each of which can power it.
        noun: hybrid car; plural noun: hybrid cars
    adjective
    adjective: hybrid
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    of mixed character; composed of mixed parts.
    "Mexico's hybrid postconquest culture"
     
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  3. The Electric Me

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    I get what you are saying but I'm actually OK with applying the term Hybrid to that situation. Since it seems what they are designing is a bucket truck whose previously Diesel Fueled and powered lift will now take the engine off-line and use electric power.
    It would probably be more correct to call it an "Electric Powered Bucket Lift" truck...but Hybrid sounds neater and works, I think in this situation.

    It's seems more genuine than about 10-15 years ago, when you had some automakers offering very weak "Stop/Start" battery technology, then slapping the label "Hybrid" on their nearly completely fuel burning vehicles.

    Sure this isn't a "Hybrid Vehicle" but it is a "Hybrid Bucket Lift"...so I'm OK with it.

    It is funny sometimes to me, just how little change happens, but how labels are slapped on products to make them sound "greener".
    I'm driving an "Earth Dreams" engine.
    Well, maybe it's more efficient....but unless my engine is still dreaming about burning fossil fuel, and exhausting fossil fuel exhaust, The Dream hasn't really changed that much since the 70's, for the vast majority of vehicles on the road.
     
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    Hybrid vehicle usually implies using multiple energy sources to propel the vehicle.
     
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    True.
    But if you read the entire piece the vehicle is described at one point as:

    " the first hybrid lift truck ".

    Again, I get what your saying, but since this is application of duel power sources to reach an end, and a change from the fully diesel engine powered lift, I'm OK with them using the term Hybrid, even if it is arguably not specifically correct as calling it an electric lift bucket truck.
     
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    Applying the general definition means that a bi-fuel car, like one with a gasoline and CNG tanks, would be a hybrid, but under legal and technical definitions, it is not. A hybrid car has an electric or hydraulic system tied to the ICE in some manner to help reduce fuel use for propulsion.

    From the description, this system isn't a hybrid vehicle. It seems to be just a grid charged battery for supplying power to accessories and equipment instead of using the ICE as an generator while the truck is parked. It isn't going to help save fuel while the truck is being driven.
     
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    True, it is saving fuel when being used as it should be.
     
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    Yes, as a piece of field equipment. Not helping saving fuel when it is working as a truck means it isn't a hybrid vehicle.
     
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    i can't believe @fuzzy1 hasn't checked in here yet.(n)
     
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    Well it certainly lacks the Synergy element is in the Prius!:ROFLMAO:
     
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