1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Parents are trying to talk me out of a Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by seeforyourself, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. seeforyourself

    seeforyourself Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2017
    36
    20
    0
    Location:
    New York City
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
    Hi everyone again! I am 22 years old and don’t know what to do

    So for a while now I’ve been knowing it’s about time to give away my mint, mostly garaged 2001 Mercury Grand Marquis with 111k miles for $3,000 (dam resale value sucks!). I am now taking more time of driving in and out of New York City and I can’t stand giving up parking spots due to the size of my current vehicle. I am also planning on moving there within the next couple of years.

    So I’ve been test driving some vehicles to see what type of tea I like. I test drove a 2016 Subaru Crosstrek and LOVED the look of it, BUT the ride was the most uncomfortable thing. The ripples in the road that I would only feel in my steering wheel of my current car, would be harsh bumps that would be obnoxious in that crossover. My mother’s C63 AMG isn’t even that harsh! I then test drove a 2014 Prius 4 with Heads up display, JBL speakers, Sun roof, and leather seats - absolutely loved the ride, but the mileage was 90k and I want one with lower miles. Unfortunately I can’t find a similarly equipped Prius with lower miles.

    I told my parents that I loved the Prius, but are trying to talk me out of it saying that the resale value in the future will be close to nothing. I’ve test drove the new Prius and found the ride a lot stiffer than the Prius I test drove, but then again the used one had a ton of miles.

    They are making me now test drive a 2015/2016 Corolla S, but I’m not sure how the suspension will be. I really liked the Prius due to the fact that it had heads up display and qualifies for Clean Pass. My budget is around $17,000 - $18,000 - thanks from the help of my parents - which is why their opinion matters.

    What do you guys think? How should I convince them? I don’t think that they will prevent me from buying one, but I don’t want them to be upset with me....


    Photos below are in respect of my current boat :(

    IMG_0456.JPG IMG_0459.JPG IMG_1657.JPG


    iPhone ?
     
  2. Suzanne Betts

    Suzanne Betts Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2018
    22
    14
    0
    Location:
    Nevada City, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Get on Consumer Reports. The Prius is the best car for maintenance, which should convince your parents that it is a smart move because you will spend so little on repairs! Secondly, there is plenty of information on the longevity of a Prius, and when I was looking a few months ago I found places that reported one could expect 250-300k out of this car. Thus, longevity and low maintenance costs, plus very low operating fuel costs, and what's not to like about this car??? Also, I suggest do a youtube search for "Prius Hotel" and watch some of the videos there. I actually bought my 2012 Prius (98k miles, $9950) with the intention of camping in it sometimes. The first thing I did when looking at it was climb in the back passenger door to see if I would fit! So it is also a sport-utility vehicle for me (though rarely used like that) - which means I get lots of service from it in all the ways I love to use my vehicle. I'll take this Prius on spontaneous trips to visit friends and relatives and camp along the way. Sweet. Good luck!
     
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,809
    49,001
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    like many cars, prius resale is based on demand and condition. demand is affected by gas prices which are currently low.
    when you go to sell, the same thing will happen. right now, they are pretty much worthless, but if gas ever spikes, the value goes up.
    anyways, i've never bought a vehicle based on resale value, but to each their own.

    my daughter currently drives a 2008 with 100,000 miles in and out of nyc. i would like to see her get something newer as well.
    all the best with your decision!(y)
     
    WilDavis and Tyfly like this.
  4. fotomoto

    fotomoto Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2009
    5,597
    3,771
    0
    Location:
    So. Texas
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    I'd like a Ferrari but the bank says I need to drive Fords, Toyota's, Subaru's...... ;)


    Also unless you're doing these test drives over the same stretch of road, comparing ride characteristics can be a little apples to oranges. A second or third test drive around a variety of roads is even better. Sales folks can have an ideal smooth road they direct you too or high speeds so road noise hides all the squeaks and rattles. Cranking up the sound system is another ploy.

    GOOD LUCK!
     
    WilDavis and padroo like this.
  5. Grit

    Grit Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    6,114
    4,040
    1
    Location:
    Wilkes Land
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Definately make sense that they wanted something with higher resale value because they're the ones footing the bill. Mine is equip with heads up display also, before buying it, listed HUD prius prices' were higher at an additional $1,000 compared to trim 4 w/o HUD so resale value is higher with those models. But don't think too much about the heads up display, its not that visible during daytime and the display is just too small compared to other HUDs.

    The other important part about buying a prius is how is your commute drive. If you drive only a couple of miles daily or live in very hilly areas, it defeats the purpose owning this type of vehicle.

    The prius has 90k, at 125k your going to have to do major tune up including cleaning EGR and that's no fun. With that budget, I'd go get a new 2017 toyota corolla so higher resale value and avoid major tune ups.
     
  6. Grit

    Grit Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    6,114
    4,040
    1
    Location:
    Wilkes Land
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    When you inflate a prius, not just limted to that vehicle, to get max the tires' FE, you'll feel the bumps also.
     
  7. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,738
    38,260
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    The Marquis looks pretty sweet.
     
    m.wynn, paprius4030 and padroo like this.
  8. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    1,355
    487
    0
    Location:
    District 6
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    How often do you drive to NYC? That should be the primary factor as to the decision of spending your and your parent's money. It seems your parents are affluent, generous, and practical as well. Aside from housing, owning an automobile is the second largest expense for most.

    Depreciation is an inevitable outcome for 99.9% of car owners with depreciation in the first few years being the lion share of it. You say you plan on moving to NYC in a couple of years. Do you intend to keep your car while living there? Do you really need a car in the city? How much will rent be? NYC is (still) one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in.

    Hence your parent's concern with residual value as you might decide to sell the Prius after only a few years. You stand to lose thousands of dollars if you do sell since a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it.

    Keep the Marquis. It's paid for, it appears to be in mint condition, and has low miles. Save the money for your move to the city, you're going to need it.

    Sincerely,
    Your Priuschat Dad
     
    #8 jadziasman, Feb 10, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2018
  9. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    809
    504
    0
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I understand why parents would be interested in resale value, but the information is out there. Banks have figures available for anticipated resale value down the road, which takes most of the guesswork out of this. For whichever car your parents prefer, figure out that car's resale value in 5 years (as an example) and compare that depreciation to the Prius.

    In addition, NY seems to be a CARB state, which will probably increase the warranty for the traction battery to 10/150k. Start off with a Prius model that is new enough and you should still be able to sell it with some warranty left. That will also increase resale value.
     
  10. Rmay635703

    Rmay635703 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    2,580
    1,601
    0
    Location:
    Somewhere in Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2013 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    N/A
    mjoo likes this.
  11. padroo

    padroo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    2,763
    2,250
    13
    Location:
    Chesterton, Indiana Another third world country.
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Have your parents been with you when you test drove the Prius?

    I have a 2003 Grand Marquis also but don't drive it much. I should sell it but my wife won't let the garage queen go.
     
  12. paprius4030

    paprius4030 My first Prius

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2004
    2,077
    295
    0
    Location:
    Ormond Beach,Fl.
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    How many miles a year do you think you'll be driving, especially when you move to NYC? If it's not at least 15-20k a year I think it makes more economic sense to just keep your Mercury since it seems to be in mint. condition.
     
    tvpierce and Rmay635703 like this.
  13. Rmay635703

    Rmay635703 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    2,580
    1,601
    0
    Location:
    Somewhere in Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2013 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    N/A
    One of my friends moved from a small city to Chicago and found a car was not only unnecessary, it was an expensive hinderence he at first stored his car using it rarely, moving to going completely car free.
    4 day weekend rentals are $35 on up during the winter and $99 all summer. He made sure he set up his life within walking distance of work and bus and biking distance for everything else he might want.

    Depending on the quality of public transport where you are moving and the cost of a parking spot for your car you may find it’s cheaper to leave the car parked at your apartment and arranging your life to minimize the need to drive.

    Even if you need to drive into work every day keeping your existing car may be the best move as a new car is rarely financially beneficial.

    That said if fuel skyrockets the way pundits claim to over $3 this spring and past 4 in 2 years then you need to make sure to keep your commute
    1. Short

    Your car
    2. Efficient (which includes most any econobox even the cheap old 65mpg Insight)

    If it’s really hard to park in your area
    a small car like a
    *gasp smart car, IMIEV, Mirage or 2001 Honda Insight Or even a small road bike might make more sense despite 40mpg and more maintenance due to parking costs and constraints.

    not sure how New York charges on registration but an older car might save bank on insurance and registration

    Though personally I love my 1981 Comutacar and 1970 Subaru 360 for tight spots they aren’t as practical;) but sometimes it’s worth it for a little extra fun.

    So Don’t feel like your in a hurry to get a car, just let things happen organically and you might find the best solution for your particular living situation down the road,

    Good Luck
     
  14. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    809
    504
    0
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Actually, a good question is where the OP is currently living and working, combined with the parking situation?
     
    Rmay635703 likes this.
  15. WolfpackBill

    WolfpackBill Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2014
    349
    500
    6
    Location:
    Lexington, NC
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Agreed. If the OP isn't living in the city, trains maybe a better way to get into the city. One of my friends lives in the Upper East Side and he parked his Q5 at his parents' in Syracuse because the parking is so expensive in the city.

    I think the Prius is small enough to be able to squeeze around traffic in the city unlike the Grand Marquis. However, if I were living in the city and need a car, I'd get a cheap junk that will take me around the city and not to worry about damages that may incur while it's parked.
     
    Grit likes this.
  16. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    6,973
    3,209
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Pick up a Spark. :D
     
  17. Johnny Cakes

    Johnny Cakes Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2016
    998
    756
    2
    Location:
    Virginia, USA
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    So you say.....
    1. Driving in/out of NYC
    2. Can't stand giving up parking spots
    3. May move to NYC and need to park there daily

    Crash worthiness is not a factor at the speeds you will be driving. Given the parking situation, I'd look at a really short car.

    Prius -- 37 inches shorter than your current car
    Chevy Spark -- 69 inches shorter
    Smart Forto -- 106 inches shorter (essentially half the size)

    I can't imagine living in NYC and wasting hours per week driving around looking for parking. And like Bill said, I'd look at a "disposable" car.
     
  18. seeforyourself

    seeforyourself Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2017
    36
    20
    0
    Location:
    New York City
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
    Thanks guys for the recommendations. I am trying to get a internship in Brooklyn this summer for my business position, so I need to see if it works out. I will keep my car until it makes sense to sell it. If I do get a job in Brooklyn, I may be forced to think about either getting an apartment, or have to commute. But if I do have to commute, I think I may be forced to get a smaller car. I just hate maneuvering this boat through mirror-tight side roads and attempting to park it with the cars on the other side of the road while rocking it into a spot - grr!

    But yes, financially it would probably make sense to just keep my current car, but my parents are really trying to push me to get a Corolla and not a hybrid. The Corolla is nice, but the S model has low profile tires which would pop a balloon on these rough roads.


    iPhone ?
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  19. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,696
    11,317
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    My 2008 Corolla LE is still going strong. Why get the S with low profile tires?
     
  20. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    809
    504
    0
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Why are your parents trying to get you to buy a Corolla instead of a hybrid? I don't think resale value is a bid differentiator because those two models are probably close. Is it because of the fear of the cost of a new traction battery in the future? Safety issue?