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What to do with my 2007??

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by alexilic, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. Fredsimm

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    Good news for the group here. My daughter will drive her 09 for at least 2 to 3 more years. She will upgrade after college. We will learn together about issues approaching 300k. I will keep to 07 indefinitely. So far the only major issue was her 7 button mfd. $200 on ebay. Sold the broke one for $85. Installation was easy.
     
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    that's an advantage to diy. the o/p does not want a large expense before selling. try taking that mfd to the dealer.:cool:
     
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    What would you buy to replace it?
     
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    seeing that the o/p never came back, i'm guessing she's looking for something for her large frame, and better highway cruiser.:)
     
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  5. alexilic

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    I'm not worried about the HV pack. I've heard about the brake issue. Also, my engine sometimes on cold starts shakes really bad and is rough. I just don't want to spend thousands on a vehicle that is not worth that much. My neighbor had an 06 with just under 200k miles. Started having one thing and another.. finally traded it in for a newer prius. Disclaimer, he went to the stealership. If I had to have the stealership do work, i would be getting rid of it now 110%. Luckily, i'm very handy and have worked on cars myself most of my life.

    As for the wheel bearings.. there are 4 things that are contributing to their failure.
    1. Chicago roads are not great and full of potholes and cracks. Especially during the winter
    2. Salt is definitely a contributing factor
    3. I keep my tires close to max psi.. summer tires around 48psi, winters around 40-42psi. The harder tire transfers more of the impact to the suspension/hubs. However, i've never bent a wheel as many of my friends have who keep their tires inflated to or under recommended psi
    4. I have a strut tower brace and subframe brace. Plus I have the touring model which i believe has stiffer suspension?? Anyways, I corner aggressively and i'm sure the lateral g's is not helping
     
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  6. alexilic

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    Hey, some of us have to work!! :(
    First, not a "she" ;)
    Second, I fit fine in the Prius.. I'm 6'2"/260. However, the seats suck. Yes, i do have the seat extenders which just broke one of them :(

    Yes, the major complaint for me is highway cruising. I do a few trips a year. When I had my Sequoia in the stable, that was the tripmobile. However, I sold that last year and do not plan on replacing it. Want to stick to one vehicle besides a work van which I have.
     
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    I've looked at and researched many vehicles over the past 6 months. The answer is.. I don't know :cry:

    I will tell you what has kept my attention the most and I keep going back to. 2014-2017 BMW 328d(yes, diesel) xDrive Wagon M sport. Why? The driving dynamics are wonderful. The cornering especially with dynamic adaptive handling is fantastic. The back seats are just big enough for my kids. And, it gets 35mph combined and over 40 on the highway. If I decided to delete and tune it, high 40's while cruising at 85 mph is easy.

    I've looked and contemplated a few.. Really like the new Camry, but I need the utility of a hatch/wagon. In 2015 I almost bought a Golf Sportwagen TDI, but didn't then dieselgate happened. Plus the Golf platform's rear seats are cramped.

    I've looked at SUV's, but just not interested.

    At the Chicago Auto Show, I saw the new Volvo V90 Wagon in T6 trim.. beautiful and so much technology and room... but it's new model and in the upper 50's and 60's. Out of my price range.

    Here is a pic of the 328d xDrive Wagon M Sport :)

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    That is my fear.. what if all those things start to break in the next year or two. My neighbors 06 with less than 200k started with one thing after the other and finally traded it in for another Prius. However, lucky for me it's mostly parts as labor I can do mostly myself.
     
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    I may be biased, but I'd rather drive a 2nd gen Prius than any BMW. They have been plagued with engine overheat issues for years. Repairs and parts are astronomical in cost. But, times change. Maybe they're ok now.
     
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    Do what you wish to do.
    Once you get a vehicle that is over a decade old, you rarely can justify the benefit of repair vs. total value of the vehicle in regards to it's worth if you decide to sell it.- I'd just throw that out. Yes, over the next 5 years to a decade you would probably be putting more money into repair as a whole, than the vehicle would be worth total.
    However, my contention is that doesn't matter. At this point, the "value" becomes what is it worth to YOU. Not how much can you sell it for. This is a vehicle in which you know the history, you know it's maintenance history, it's driving history. You know, where you are at with this vehicle. As you "repair as necessary" you also know what has been repaired and replaced.

    Personally...I think if you are NOT driving 80-90 mph on the freeway, The Prius is a great freeway vehicle. The Prius was absolutely the best "road trip" long distance freeway/highway vehicle I have ever owned. Nothing gas powered is going to get you from point A to point B, as cheaply as The Prius. I loved it for highway driving.

    Yes the truth it sounds like relatively expensive repairs may be on the horizon. Most notably maybe the Hybrid Battery. But the other truth is, almost any new vehicle is going to cost you more to buy, than the maintenance costs likely to occur. The other truth is even though you sidestep some expensive repair/maintenance issues and items, you aren't really saving money. Your spending more to buy the new vehicle.

    Also sometimes the center holds better than we think. It may be some of the projected problems do NOT manifest. Wear items like tires, you are going to replace anyway,- with any vehicle.

    Even though I'm being hypocritical because in the past 6 years, I've bought 2 new vehicles, I'm really a proponent of buying, paying off, and driving a vehicle as long as possible, as long as it's safe and viable.

    But sometimes we want change. That ripped back seat, the cracked windshield etc, etc, and we decide that shiny new thing sitting on the dealership lot looks so much better.

    10+ years is a long run.
    IMO...you can make either decision and be right. So it really comes down to do what you feel is right for you.
    I'm somewhat bias, because once a vehicle get's past a certain point, I take a lot of pride in keeping it going. It actually becomes "fun" to me.
     
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  11. alexilic

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    If you are not capable of doing maintenance and repairs yourself, I would never buy a German brand. However, just like there are so many diy posts and videos on the Prius, there are many cost saving solutions on the BMW forums. My friend loves his x5 diesel and 3 series diesel. Very reliable. I have another friend with an x5 with rear air suspension.. one of the air bags was leaking. Stealership wanted over $2,000 to repair it. He bought 2 new aftermarket air bags for $150 and replaced it himself. So many other stories i've read on their forum since I've been following it for a few months.

    Local dealership let me take their 2014 328d wagon for a whole day test drive.. omg, the handling, the ride, the seats, so much better. It had less than a 1/4 tank, after driving around for hours all day, still had a 1/8 tank :)

    But, I hate payments and even tho i'm a diyer, i'm still concerned about BMW reliability. So we'll see..
     
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    You're last paragraph hits it on the head.. now that i've had it this long and mileage, part of me wants to keep it going. It would be wonderful if I was the first and last owner of the vehicle. Even if I did get another vehicle, maybe I keep this as a second vehicle and give it to my daughter when she turns 16(she's 12 now).

    As for NOT driving 80-90 mph.. you must not live around Chicagoland! Especially in the morning, you'll get run over if you don't. Honestly, I'm a fast driver and I drive a lot. There are days i'm leisurely cruising along at 65-70.. but when I'm going from one meeting to another and they are 40 miles apart.. 80-90 it is. It's not just about sustained cruising speed.. i need passing power which the Prius doesn't have.

    I realize the cost of a new vehicle will cost more than repair expenses on the Prius. If I keep the payment around $400 a month, that is $4,800 a year. I don't see the Prius costing that much to repair year over year. And it's probably why i'll end up sticking with the Prius, it just makes financial sense.
     
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    Considering the mileage you have on this car, I think you should think of it as a free car, it has given you a very long service life, you got your money's worth and more. Time to dump it and get a new car, you have earned it.
     
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    Well, don't forget the WHOLE last paragraph,

    Another aspect of upgrading every decade or so, is safety. Brand new cars today, have safety equipment and options that didn't exist just 10 years ago.

    Good Luck with your decision.
     
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    First, I can't imagine buying a diesel given their impact on health -- even if you don't 'delete and tune' it (which amounts to setting the engine up to emit enormously NOx and particulate). It's just. not. right.

    Second, I'm in a somewhat similar situation, though with fewer issues (so far) with my 2005 Prius. It has 215k miles on it and the HV battery has one or more failed modules. The car is also burning 2 +/- quarts of oil every 5k miles, but it's not leaking any oil.

    I'm leaning towards replacing it with a Green Bean or GreenTec replacement battery since they are $1400 cheaper than the dealer option and they come with longer warranties. The car would serve as my son's starter car once he gets his license this summer.

    Here's my reasoning: If I don't fix the HV battery, the car isn't saleable so my best alternative would be to donate it to an auto donation program. If I do fix the battery and then sell the car, I'd likely only net $500-1000 after the cost of the repair -- and I'd end up buying another car for my son at some point.

    I'd be interested in the perspective of this forum on this decision, and I'd also be interested in anyone's experience with either Green Bean or GreenTec replacement batteries.
     
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    Remanufactured batteries from companies have a very poor track record here. I doubt their price for a Gen 2 battery is $1400 less than the new lower price of the Toyota Gen 2 battery. Some have got them for $1625 if I recall correctly.

    If you are DIY s user here sells a kit of new cells with a 2 year unlimited mile warranty for $1600 shipped. The site is in my signature but they may be backordered.
     
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    I don't have the time to become a DIYer . . . the dealer quoted $2900 installed for a new HV battery with a 1-year warranty, vs $1550 installed for the aftermarket option.
     
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    Does the aftermarket warranty include installation? Many do not.
     
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    If you can I would shop other dealers and perhaps you can lower the price on the factory battery somewhat. Since you will be putting your child in the drivers seat, I would not want him stranded by a rebuilt battery. Your car might not be worth the extra money for a factory battery, but I would think your son is worth it.
     
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    I'm torn on the diesel.. I've lived and visited Europe and diesels are everywhere. Great mpgs and reliability. As for the emissions, I agree, but when so many trucks, buses, etc.. are using diesel, will my little 4cyl car make a huge difference?

    Before dieselgate, people were buying TDI's and couldn't keep them on the lot.. even now, with the release of the 15's as new, most Golfs and sportwagens are gone.. only some Jetta's and Passats left. Just read an article this morning how Kia or Hyundai's new 2019 SUV will have a diesel option. Ford will offer a diesel in their F150 this year, Chevy's Colorado's diesel is hard to find on the lots..

    After thinking about it some more, I'll keep the Prius. Fix with quality parts as needed. If it keeps going for another 3 years, i'll give it to my oldest daughter(12.5 yrs old) to be her first car. It also comes down to I hate payments. I'm even thinking i'll register for Uber/Lyft and make some extra money every month and put in a special "new car" savings acct.
     
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