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07 Prius Will Not Run

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Ronco21, Mar 18, 2018.

  1. Ronco21

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    I have an 07 Prius with 156,000 miles. Left for work early morning as usual and my car went dead at the first stop sign a few hundred yards from my house. I restarted it and turned around headed back to the drive way. Didn't quite make it as the car died again and the Red Triangle appeared and now the car was done. I checked the auxiliary 12V battery and it was weak. I later load tested it and it had a bad cell so I purchased a new fully charged 12V battery. After work I tried starting the car and the "Ready" light came on and I was able to drive only a few feet before the Red Triangle appeared again. The motor ran for about a second during this time and then immediately shut off. I read the codes with an Innova Scanner and it came up C1259, C1310. The brake light on the dash was on each and every time the Red Triangle appeared. I've read about every blog on this site and still can't pinpoint the problem. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

    Thank you,

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    Did you mess around with the orange traction battery interlock located on the left side of the traction battery?

    When the interlock is inserted, you pivot the lever 90 degrees, then slide it down to lock in place.

    If the interlock is correctly installed and the car still does not run, get Mini VCI so that you can retrieve the DTC logged by the hybrid vehicle ECU. The two codes that you listed were logged by the skid control ECU and basically indicate the hybrid vehicle ECU has a problem.
     
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    Hi Patrick,

    The interlock is correctly installed. The only other code I received was a P0125. Can you recommend a Mini VCI Techstream?

    Thank you,

    Ronco21
     
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    Hm I thought those codes 3 error codes c1259 , c1310 were repeater codes. Put out by the breaking system and the traction skid control system when the main battery was not functioning properly. Are you sure there wasn’t another code? One that indicated your hybrid high voltage traction battery was malfunctioning?


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    Oh, I see Patrick has got you straightened out


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    Hi Paul,

    I did receive a P0125 code but I was not using Toyota Techstream. I had an Innova reader with abs function probably logging the skid control ECU.
     
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    DTC P0125 means that the engine temperature is not increasing as it should, as the engine is warming up from a cold start. Make sure the engine coolant in the radiator is full. If it is, then the engine thermostat may be open, or the engine temp sensor has failed.

    That fault code will not prevent the engine from running, so your car probably has logged additional DTC unknown to you.

    Look on amazon.com and you will see many suppliers of illegal devices. You need to decide if you want a US supplier or one from China. Obviously shipping from China will take a bit longer, although I have found their air delivery is quite fast. Most of the delay occurs once the shipment arrives in Los Angeles and then has to get through the US Mail system.

    You also have to decide what version level you want. The newer versions will cost more. Use a laptop running Windows 7 or Windows XP, 32 bit OS.

    [Moderators note: we cannot allow the promotion of illegal diagnostic tools on PriusChat. It is a really fast was to get the site sued and shut down. All references to such devices will be removed.]
     
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    Hi Patrick,

    I did check the coolant level and it is fine. I did find several VCI suppliers on e bay and will try one of those scanners. I do have a Techstream scanner which I purchased a few months ago but I couldn't make it work. It was a J2534 cable with XHORSE. I was using a 32 bit Dell with XP. I couldn't get the driver to load.

    Thanks so much,

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    Before you purchase another cable, we will try to get your existing cable working first (y)
     
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    Ok I will try. Should I call when you have time?
     
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    Have you tried to install/reinstall the the software/driver already?

    What kind of issues are you having?

    After installing the driver (and after plugging the cable into your computer), run the Driver Utility it will tell you if the computer recognizes the cable or not.
     
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    Ok let me try that. Thank you!
     
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    sees cable but no comm port also can't get driver to load say setup ended prematurely
     
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    Hi Patrick,

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    Hi Patrick,

    I received the new software and dongle. This time it hooked up with no problem to my computer. I ran the 15 ECU health check and received the following DTC codes;

    P0A0F Under Hybrid Control with Detail Code 204 under the snowflake. 204 trouble area stating Abnormal Signal input from ECM and or SFI System.

    P3190 Under Engine and ECT. Trouble area Poor Engine Power.

    The car runs for approximately 15 seconds and then quits with Red Triangle.

    Would the Techstream ECU Flash Reprogramming Procedure (T-SB-0012-13) cure the ICE from not running? I did replace the original HV battery with a newer 09 HV battery because I thought the original HV battery was so low it wouldn't start the engine. The replacement (09) HV battery had over 4 bars when I installed it and now it too is down to just a single bar.

    I would appreciate any help or suggestions.

    Best always,

    Ronco21
     
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    Hi Ed,

    I have the software working, I just can't figure out what's causing my ICE to not run. See below;

    P0A0F Under Hybrid Control with Detail Code 204 under the snowflake. 204 trouble area stating Abnormal Signal input from ECM and or SFI System.

    P3190 Under Engine and ECT. Trouble area Poor Engine Power.

    The car runs for approximately 15 seconds and then quits with Red Triangle.

    Would the Techstream ECU Flash Reprogramming Procedure (T-SB-0012-13) cure the ICE from not running? I did replace the original HV battery with a newer 09 HV battery because I thought the original HV battery was so low it wouldn't start the engine. The replacement (09) HV battery had over 4 bars when I installed it and now it too is down to just a single bar.

    I would appreciate any help or suggestions.
     
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    The observation of "running 15 seconds" just means that MG1 is spinning the engine. The engine did not actually start, and the proof of that is if you depress the accelerator pedal while the engine is spinning, its speed will not increase. Each time you do this, you are draining the traction battery a little more.

    This is what I would do:

    1. Remove the engine air cleaner housing. Clean the throttle body interior and throttle plate. Use a clean rag with throttle body cleaner sprayed on it, and scrub out the throttle body interior as well as the throttle plate. Rotate the throttle plate 90 degrees to get inside the throttle body.
    Do not drown the throttle body in cleaner (which is contrary to the instructions you will probably find on the can.) I use Q-tips and 91% isopropyl alcohol to clean the throttle body interior.
    What does the engine air filter look like on the bottom? If you cannot see light pass through the filter, discard it and install a new filter.
    2. Remove the mass air flow sensor from the air cleaner housing, and clean the MAF sensor using MAF spray cleaner. The amber bulb should be clean, not grey. The two little wires should be clean. Do not actually touch the wires with anything other than cleaner spray.
    Do not use throttle body cleaner (which has lubricant in it) because that will attract dust on the MAF sensor. Reinstall the MAF sensor. Reinstall the air cleaner housing. Make sure the clamp at the bottom of the housing to the throttle body is tight. Make sure that the PCV hoses are correctly positioned on the throttle body.
    3. Make sure you have at least 3 gallons of fuel in the fuel tank.
    4. Make sure the 12V battery is fully-charged. It doesn't matter if it is new. Today, did you put a charger on it to make sure it is fully-charged? If not, do so overnight and let the battery charge up while you are working on 1-3 above.
    5. Try once to start the engine. If it doesn't start, there are three more things you can try:
    6. Figure out how to hook up a fuel pressure gauge to the fuel line, which will require you to rig up appropriate fittings. See if the fuel pressure is at least 43 psi when you make the Prius IG-ON (you do not have to actually try to start the engine.)
    7. Inspect the wiring to the camshaft position sensor and crankshaft position sensor.
    8. Replace the engine ECU which is hiding behind the glove compartment. Forget about trying to reflash the ECU using MiniVCI. If you don't have a real licensed copy of Techstream, do not try to do anything other than retrieve DTC.
    9. If 1-8 fail, tow the car to your local Toyota dealer for assistance.

    Good luck.
     
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    Hi Patrick,

    Thank you. I did everything but 6 & 7 so I will try those tomorrow. Thanks for the tip on the reflashing too. Is it possible I have a fuel delivery problem? What about spraying starting fluid into the throttle body? Lastly, what do I look for in an ECM for the engine? Used or brand new?

    Most appreciative,

    Ronco21
    Roger
     
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    You could try using starting fluid. Just don't get any on the MAF sensor.

    No point in buying a new ECM when you can buy used ones so cheaply on eBay. Just make sure the part number of the used unit is the same or higher than the currently installed ECM.
     
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    Clear all the codes via TIS so the next attempt to start the engine will log fresh codes. Please post them here.

    Your running out of start attempts.

    What kind of maintenance have you done to the car?How many miles since you bought it?
    Have you ever run it so low on engine oil it threw a red triangle?

    Why did you put A new hybrid battery in it?
     
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