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Anybody know how to reprogram wheel speed/ speedometer

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by hayden55, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. hayden55

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    TL/DR: How can I reprogram my configured wheel speed to correct my speedometer for the new tires? Also to be clear I want the tool not "go to the dealer blah blah..." I could do it on a whim to my mustang with a tuner and not have to pay a minimum 79.99 service charge plus fees.
     
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    It has been discussed before and I don't believe it is possible without specialized programming tools......and inside knowledge of the code involved.
     
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    Some people here have corrected their tire size to correct speedometer deviation

    I have not heard of anybody correcting the speedometer. I doubt the dealer would be able to either. Their main software interface is TechStream which has been used my many people here.
    If is is possible, @Elektroingenieur may be able to find if it is in the techinfo documentation. Otherwise, likely Toyota Design Engineering would be the only ones capable of doing this.
     
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    Wow that just blows my mind considering how advanced this car is. I guess since they figured people dont mod pri they wouldnt worry about tire size calibration? On the mustang you just get your SCT tool and type in XXX-XX/XX and bam.
     
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    Yep. Your right - it is very advanced car.
     
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    The Prius is a car designed primarily to be low polluting and secondarily to be fuel efficient. Why would Toyota want to spend engineering resources to permit modifications beyond those goals?

    Where is the financial payback if they chose to develop those features? If you could present a case for increased ROI, I expect Toyota would be all ears.
     
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    I think you mis-interpreted what I meant I guess...
    How does owners wanting different wheel sizes affect any of what you said if they keep the LRR mantra going?
    Apparently having an accurate speedometer is too much to ask for from profit margins.
     
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    I think it's rude to tell someone when you're gonna hit the ignore button, but I might make an exception, lol.
     
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    Sorry I thought he was talking about the performance programmer I mentioned. Just thought it was industry practice for that adjustment.
    Sorry guys!
     
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    What I find interesting is that Toyota lies about the speed on the display apparently deliberately. If you use a scanguage or other OBDII device, it will show the speed accurately, or very close to it. The car knows its speed but it want's us to think it's going faster than it is. And apparently, most other cars are doing the opposite so drivers think they're going 45 when they're actually going 65. :eek:
     
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    No, no, no: speedometers are never supposed to indicate you're going slower than actual. And since deadly accuracy is unachievable, they err on the side of caution, intentionally: indicate you're going a little faster than you are.
     
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    Across the board from every manufacturer the odometer and mile counters will be correct, but the speedometers from every brand read 2% slow to keep you from blaming your speeding ticket on them. I've observed this on the scanguage like you said as well.
     
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    YOU are making the mods.
    YOU are responsible for whatever that causes.

    Toyota is not responsible to take into consideration any and all mods that owners might make.
    Get over it.

    You can "recalibrate" your speedo with some little pieces of masking tape.
     
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    Bruh... they offer different tire diameters from the OEM so the tools exist... If you're gonna recommend masking tape dont even comment on my thread.
     
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    As @Sam Spade observes, this topic has been discussed many times before; as far as I know, you can’t.

    The Repair Manual (available by subscription to techinfo.toyota.com) has a list of the “Customize Parameters” that can be changed using a Toyota Techstream diagnostic system, and there isn’t one for tire size, outer diameter, revolutions per mile, or any similar parameter. I checked several other Toyota models, including some more often seen with non-standard tires and wheels, and none has such an option.

    It’s conceivable that some third party might have developed a way to reprogram the skid control ECU or combination meter, but I’m not aware of one, and would advise against it, in any case.
    Not necessarily. For the 2010 Prius in the U.S., the two sizes of factory-installed tires were P195/65R15 and P215/45R17, for which the difference in diameter makes only a small contribution to speedometer error.
     
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    I'm sure that the discrepancy is part of their cya program. It's just sad that it's necessary. As to my 45-65 comment in post #11, I hope you know that was sarcasm generated by people in Chevy Suburbans passing me on the shoulder at over 100 mph.
     
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    Might be your only option.
    Another case of "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up."
    Good luck.
     
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    Wow... I guess I am noticing the pattern. Sad to see Toyota literally doesn't include it if it doesn't make profit. Much to the the opposite of Ford who only makes one wiring harness and they all have the option to be upgraded etc... Toyota just strips the wires out and adding it is impossible (something else I was talking about adding previously). Still seems odd that they could have a car with 4.5% speedometer error from the factory vs the standard 2% (the 17" wheel option).
     
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    Car so advanced, trunk won't even open with key (sks) next to trunk with engine on.