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So, Are we Still in Love?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Prime Example, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. WDWBarb

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    Having to carry my purse around is something, I admit, I hate. In a world where I can run into the store and pay for my purchases with my phone or even my watch means that I don't have to haul my purse in with my wallet in it. If I also didn't have to dig out my key fob it would be very convenient for me. I don't tend to take my fob out often so it's usually somewhere in the bottom of whatever purse I'm using.

    Yes, it would have to allow me to lock the fob in the car, but I would find this feature helpful.
     
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    I don't believe the valley of the rear glass is equal in width. One may need two blades as well as the dual arm (instead of a single blade) to cover the different depth and width of the rear glass.
     
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    I think you're saying you'd leave the car without the keyfob which, to me, is completely insane and something I never thought of and would never do in a million years.
     
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    I don' understand why this would matter. If a dual arm were mounted up behind the GPS antenna, it could reach the whole window without having to be anything but very close to straight.
     
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    Source: Tesla owner gets stranded after forgetting keys, losing cell service | Tesla Motors Club

    Tesla owner, Las Vegas investor and entrepreneur Ryan Negri learned that the hard way as he got stranded with his Tesla six miles from home near Red Rock Canyon, Nevada. Negri used the Tesla mobile app to start the car at home, and didn't bring his keys; but when he had to stop and restart the car to adjust a dog seat, there was no cell service, so the start-with-phone method was useless.

    "Need to restart the car now, but, with no cell service, my phone can't connect to the car to unlock it. Even with cell service, the car would also need cell service to receive the signal to unlock," Negri described the event on Instagram.

    To start the car, Negri's wife Amy had to walk 2 miles to get cell service, then call a friend to take her home and pick up car keys.

    Second source: Locked Out!!! | Tesla Motors Club

    Went to pick up some food for an event I'm having and I asked the guy I was meeting to wait for me outside. He wasn't avaialbe so I ran into his store and left my keys and phone in the car. I spent all of 4 minutes in his store and when I came out, my car wouldn't open. Door handles would not present themselves. I pushed on them, I tried shaking the car, I tried opening the trunk... nothing. I kept trying over a period of 5-7 minutes but it was FREEZING cold and my jacket was in the car, so I gave up and went back in.

    I went back inside the store and called my wife from the store landline and asked her to bring the extra keys (keep in mind, I changed the battery on my key less than 2 weeks ago - so it is a brand new battery).

    Waited about 15 minutes for my wife to arrive and figured, let me give it one last try... and the door handles popped open.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    This is why women's clothing should have pockets. I, too, hate having to carry a purse.

    They lack function, unlike backpacks or messenger bags, which you don't carry unless you need to.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    I believe most cars, for the last 10 years or more will not let you lock the car with the key in it unless the car can determine you have a physical key outside the car.

    I just carry the fob in my pocket and leave it there. I use SKS to open the door. I only handle the fob whenever I change to a new set of clothes.
     
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    The curve makes them self-clearing.

    Neither rain nor snow have been an issue.

    That aerodynamic shape simply funnels stuff away.
     
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    Most women’s clothing, particularly business attire, doesn’t have pockets. Less of a problem in colder months when I can wear a coat but a pain the rest of the year.
     
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    Women around my place usually carry a small handheld purse (possibly with a wrist strap) with credit cards, cash, cell phone, etc. It gets more interesting if they also carry a laptop or tablet since they do not have 8 arms.

    Sorry, I do not make it a point of studying what the women at my place of employment do that is not job related.
    We do have some really talented IT women, though.
     
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    That is entirely, completely untrue in my experience. I have had literally dozens of times when I couldn't see at all out the rear window of my prime. Wet snow especially sticks to it like glue, even at speeds above 70mph. And even things like sleet and dry snow often stick at speeds below 35mph. There have been several times when the rear window and both side mirrors got totally obstructed while I was driving making it completely impossible to see behind me. That's one reason I'm appalled that the rear-camera can't been made available while driving forward.
     
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    You must have the rear-window turned on. Forgetting will that will indeed allow snow to accumulate on the bumps.



    Same issue, make sure to have the heating element turned on.
     
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    That's not it. Every case was with the rear defroster on and the inside temp set to 70-72F.
     
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    Where do you live? For how long in sustained heavy snow? That has to be bizarre snow to obscure the side mirrors while driving.
     
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    Colorado, where we get snow when the temperature is right near freezing. That stuff is so wet it sticks to everything.
     
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    So... how do sedans with the window angles similar to Prius but lacking a wiper deal with that same snow?
     
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    They're just as bad. I have one and I keep a 12 inch shower squeegee in the back seat so I can get out and sweep the back window from time to time. I now have one in my Prime as well.

    On my 2004 Prius, I just used the rear wiper, which I often had to clear by hand.
     
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    Here's a picture I took the other day.

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    Reading through these posts and while I think most of us would freely admit that the Prime does have a swath of issues that could be improved upon or changed to better fit one(s) lifestyle, the overall consensus is that it’s a great car.

    I’ve got about 1500 miles on my ‘17 Advanced (it would likely be double that already had it not sat in the dealers lot for 3+ weeks waiting on a completely new head unit for the MID displays as I had a bad one that went out). Even with that little headache, I can’t say enough about the Prime.

    I’m coming from a ’13 Gen 3 Prius Two. Initially, I heavily shopped the 17 Prius Four & Four Touring. While the ride was much improved with either of the Gen 4 Prius’, I felt I had to settle for certain features on either the Four or Four Touring and while the ride was light years ahead of my 13 the gas mileage wasn’t that improved in my mind to take on a new car payment....

    Then I happened upon this site to see what other Prius owners had to say to see if anything would push me to change my mind; and then I ventured into the Prime forum and read about the car & the $4500 dealer cash incentive out east. The rest, as they say, is history.

    Prior to driving from Chicago to Buffalo to get my Prime Advanced, I tried to see if there was any inventory here in the Midwest so I could take one for a test drive. This was in late December 2017/early January 2018 but there were none on any dealer lots within 150 miles of me - so I decided what the heck, I owned nothing but Toyota’s for the last 15 years; they’ve been bulletproof. I’m going in blind

    So I started emailing dealerships in the New York area (about 15 to be exact) narrowed that down to 3 with very aggressive pricing, then worked my 13 Prius Two into the picture to trade and finally made the deal and took the 8 1/2 hour ride to West Herr Orchard Valley to meet Steve Spina and get my new Prime. (I’m giving him a shameless plug here because he was that good - honest pricing from the start & no low balling or games. Just had the best price from go and worked with give me what I wanted for my trade as well. I really do highly recommend him if you’re in the market out east for a Prime. Great guy)

    Ok enough backstory...here’s why I love my Prime:

    The ride: it’s buttery smooth. Almost a luxury ride with a quiet cabin and while at times it does feel “rear end” heavy due to the battery, the overall ride and handling is fantastic. I love the effortless, smooth pull of the electric engine. As much as I wish my Prime was an all electric car, I do love the ability to have the gas engine and ability to take long trips without searching for charge points across my route. We also just had our first little warm weather string of days here in the Midwest & already I am noticing the bump in electric range from 23 to 28 - my goal is 35 this Summer. I also can’t say enough about how much this car “rolls”. Coasting in this car it feels effortless and like it could roll forever. Absolutely no resistance at all...I can’t say enough about the ride!

    The gas savings: how many of us love not using gas!? My kids call it my “nerd mobile” but I don’t care. I love reading owners posts talking about how they haven’t used gas in months or are on their third tank of gas in 10k miles. While that’s not me as in Chicago
    there’s not as many available charge spots I do love seeing people really take the whole benefit of this car to the extreme and avoiding the pump.

    The technology: this is what really sold me on the Prime and to get rid of my Prius.
    Lane Departure Alert, Blind Spot, Rear Cross, Accident Avoidance, Heated Steering Wheel, HUD, and the one thing that amazes me the Radar Cruise. My kids were in awe the first time I let it bring the car to a complete stop on the expressway off ramp and then restart the car and follow once the light turned green to proceed.

    The look: while I disliked the new Gen 4 Prius redesign, I really like the unique look of the Prime with all the LEDs upfront. Some people dislike the 4 passenger seating but my kids have commented how comfortable the back seats are and if I have a ton of adults/kids we simply pile in my Toyota Sequoia and get 12 miles/gallon. Lol. Trunk space in the Prime, with the bigger battery, is a little sparse but something I can live with. I am; admittedly, a little leery about not having a spare though.

    I’m pleased with the car. I like the look and ride. I have only seen one other Prime here in the Chicago suburbs to date.

    I really don’t understand why Toyota isn’t really marketing this car. I’d love to get an answer to that.
     

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    Easy.
    Toyota and their dealers make most of their money from vehicle servicing. The Prius family needs less servicing, so less overall profit.

    It is the same principle used by razor and inkjet printer manufacturers. They make their money on the supplies.
     
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