2018 Prime Map Data different from 2015 PIP

I’m really not sure, but seems like Toyota has switched to a new map provider for certain systems:

Toyota Map Updates

 

Who sets their actual home as the Nav's 'home' in the first place? This just becomes an aid to car prowlers, purse snatchers, and burglars once they get ahold of a key fob or figure out how to spoof the security.

A nearby major road or intersection should be a sufficient guidance endpoint for nearly everyone. My 'home' is the nearest traffic light, where arterials intersect.

For some specific roads, I have to say 'its about time!'. Well into the electronic mapping era, I saw numerous systems showing old logging roads across dad's farm as shown on early 1960s USGS topographic maps, that had been rendered impassable by slope failures and timber regrowth decades ago. Just last summer, while loading crop into the barn, some ATVers with a handheld device stopped to ask us for guidance across the main such route, which was impassable on 4 wheels even when I first walked it in the late 1960s. And became impassable on 2 wheels before I went to college.

Though this doesn't cover an active road to your house. As the previous poster indicated, it probably relates to a change of map vendors.

 

HERE and NavTeq are the same company. HERE is the new name I’m guessing after a conglomerate of car manufacturers purchased the company to compete as accurate map data is thought paramount to successful autonomous driving.

CA car registration is something most people leave in the vehicle, along with vehicle proof of insurance. The registration cards usually show your home address, unless you register under a company then your work address, ie. company lease.

The other map manufacturers are TomTom (which purchased TeleAtlas), and ALK (I think in NJ), besides the Garmin that I linked.

 

Looks like ALK Technologies was purchased by a company called Trimble, based in CA...

 

I do, because evidence of this particular crime scenario is extremely rare, thus the individual odds of this actually happening are astronomical. The well meaning warnings that circulate on the internet are pretty much in the category of urban legend. Sort of like the friend of a friend story where a car is stolen, then later returned with a note of apology and two theater tickets to make amends. Of course when the couple return from the theater they find that their home has been ransacked.

An actual concern is too much information on social media. Apparently there is evidence of burglars using this information to target homes. Although the individual odds are still low that posting your vacation pictures real time will lead to your home being burglarized.

 

just another example of toyota fail.

 

I never really understood peoples concern... Unless a burglar assumes that you're single and have no other roommate, I don't see any real advantage to knowing someone's home address. The idea that just because one car isn't home means that no one is home at all is just silly. There's much better ways to figure out if a house is empty.

likewise I never understood why people black out their license plates in for-sale postings.

 

Since your home address printed on your registration is locked away in your Prius' glove compartment, it's an extra protection to not have your home address in your GPS.





Wait, what, the Prius glove compartment doesn't lock?

 

Here is some local-to-me evidence of this 'urban legend':
Seattletimes: Redmond police think they've caught 'Movie Bandits'
"Redmond police have arrested a man and woman who are believed to be responsible for dozens of home and vehicle break- ins. The pair is suspected of breaking into parked vehicles and stealing the registration, which they used to find the vehicle owner's home."
[This was six years ago. A subsequent ring targeting homes mostly in Kenmore and Bothell was broken up just a couple years ago.]

Car prowlers hit Bothell park-and-ride | Q13 FOX News
Crime Alert: Sammamish Police Identify Trend in Local Vehicle/Home Break-ins | Sammamish, WA Patch
Laurelhurst Blog: Car Prowlers Stealing Car Registration Then Burglarizing Home
“Lock it, Hide it, Keep it”: Bellevue Police targeting car prowlers during holiday season | Q13 FOX News
Thieves break into hikers’ car, find house keys and registration, then burglarize home — 3 hours away! | Q13 FOX News
Break in at the Tiger lot results in home burglary!- Mtbr.com
Obscuring one’s address on vehicle registration is of dubious legality | Road Warrior
Prowler protection: Your car isn't as safe as you thought
Dozens of car break-ins reported at Mountain Loop trailheads | HeraldNet.com

After one of the police warnings, I made photocopies of our car registrations with the address field blocked, but got lazy and quit doing so after that group was broken up with arrests. The proof-of-insurance cards do not show an address.

 

Yeah that's the latest warning going around, that you shouldn't keep your car registration in the glove box, because of the same scenario, thief now knows where you live and breaks into your house.However these warnings never seem to include any statistics indicating the actual level of risk, only anecdotal incidents. Oh I'm sure it's happened somewhere, there are over 200 million cars in the U.S. and anything can happen. I'm sure there have been people driving with their windows down and a bee or wasp flew into the car, stinging them and causing them to crash. But that doesn't deter me from driving with my windows down. Even if my glove box did lock (which it doesn't) what a hassle to have to constantly use a key to open it and lock it, just because of the astronomical odds that a car thief will use the address to locate my home. But I know statistics are not the gauge used by most people for safety, as evidenced by the large number of people who are much more afraid to fly then drive. So if someone feels safer locking up their registration in the glove box that's perfectly fine with me. Actually what I read is don't keep it in your glove box keep a copy in your wallet. As for me, I keep it in both places, my wallet and my glove box. I guess if I get kidnapped in my car then I'm in real trouble!

 

You mean, we would update our old maps if it weren't so expensive to do so. So you need to worry only about us cheapskates.

Shouldn't your home be only 1 or 2 minutes beyond a generic landmark?

 

That's an incident, not a statistic. Actually I purposely used the phrase "pretty much like" an urban legend to indicate that while some incidents probably have occurred, it's been blown out of proportion. But I can see I probably should have been a little more verbose to make it more clear what I was saying.

EDIT - I had the first sentence above typed then accidentally saved and was trying to edit during the five "golden minutes" and got interrupted by a phone call so the rest posted later.

 

That is very many incidents, not just a single one. And they are all local to me, not far away places.

 

I guess we have a difference of opinion as to what constitutes "very many". Millions of people in the geographic area you are referring to, and a few incidents over several years. Personally it wouldn't cause me to loose sleep worrying about my address being in my car or GPS, but I guess that's just me.

 

Garmin is a separate company. TeleAtlas/TomTom is separate. Once they switched they were dependent on them. That’s why it is on SD card vs the older USB which is transferred to HDD. The USB dongle is 16 GB, (I bought one and they readily sell it because without TIS and AVN you can’t use it). The SD for the Garmin is only 4 GB. So less data can be stored... Toyota realized early on the USB dongle, TIS, plus AVN was a NSA security level of copy protection that was just not necessary. (I had updated the first time before the TIS software was even implemented and had spoken directly to someone in “level 3” at TIS)....