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Looking at a 2008 - does this MPG look ok?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Steelerfan2018, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. padroo

    padroo Senior Member

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    The only time my 2008 dipped into the 30's was really cold weather and snow. Summer I got upper 40's.
    Usually no interstate driving.
     
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    Hey Ray not in a while. It’s been running so well I’m afraid to touch it.

    Thanks,
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    I agree that highway miles are better than typical miles around here. What we do is stop and go highway speeds; worst of both worlds. If we were driving at 35-45 mph, we'd be getting closer to 60 mpg even with the traffic lights here that are programmed by an Arab oil sheik.
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  4. Steelerfan2018

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    Some updates.

    - I did get the car and cannot be happier. Haven't really driven it much - waiting on insurance.
    - My mechanic checked the car and liked it. I've known this mechanic for years - I am a steady customer and he has actually saved me $ compared to other shops. The car was inspected last December and got new brakes and bearings.
    - My mechanic knows the seller - and the seller's father and grandfather. They all like local to me, within 15 minutes. Says they are all good at upkeep with their cars (he has worked on a lot of them) and are overall good people. The mechanic's son went to high school with the seller and said that he's a pretty good guy etc.

    - I would like to point out that I live in western PA - on a hill, surrounded by hills. When I have relatives come here from out of state, they are amazed at the hills (they even call them mountains which is a little funny). All of my tests have been short drives, on hills and one jaunt on the highway. I noticed with the hills that the MPG will go from 100mpg downhill to the mid-30s going uphill (or sometimes worse).

    - To get an idea, I had a minivan that was supposed to get in the 20s for MPG, but going from Pittsburgh to Erie averaged 16 or so going north and 18 coming south (yes there is a slope up when going north). I am a stickler for maintenance - especially oil changes - so the van was in pretty good shape (and there were multiple trips, all with the roughly the same numbers).

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    Don't be surprised or upset if you wait until 4000 miles to check dipstick and nothing registers! You may need to pour a splash every 1500 or 2000 miles....It almost certainly will burn/disappear a little bit between changes. It is not a big deal at all imo but it is the 1 guaranteed and universal issue you will find on a high mileage gen 2 prius.
     
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    Do you have the complete service history of the car? If it has been regularly serviced, and all the recommended updates have been done, it sounds like it should be a keeper, but (…as they say) YMMV! o_O :rolleyes::eek:;)
     
  7. Steelerfan2018

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    Thanks for the reply. As a standard practice I take any used vehicle and get all the fluids/filters checked, that way I know that I am starting from a "known good." I got this done today and the guy there says that everything is perfect - the oil had about 2k on it so there was a slight color - but otherwise everything was virtually brand new, filter included. Changed the oil anyway for peace of mind, with the high-mileage stuff.
     
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    I have the carfax, which comes up clean. It has a list of things for going into the dealer etc. No accidents, no floods etc. It started out as a PA car so that at least I know it had to pass inspection every year.
     
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    I wouldn't have switched to high milage formulation unless there was clear evidence of significant oil burning. Just because it has 170,xxx mi on it does not automatically mean it uses significant oil.

    Otherwise I'm with you all the way. Congrats of the purchase, I hope you continue to enjoy the car.
     
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    Good Luck with the Prius.
    I'm late to this thread, but would say nothing sounds "abnormal".

    But with a 10 year old Prius, that's MPG is ebbing...assuming original hybrid battery, I would consider it a symptom of a decade old Hybrid Battery.
    Which means you could have many, many more miles of driving...or the battery could fail tomorrow.

    No codes, and running OK, I wouldn't worry about it. BUT...I tell everyone that is purchasing a 10+ year old Prius, buy it with the expectation that you may have to invest into a new Hybrid Battery. Then just drive it, until that reality manifests. It will inevitably manifest, just a matter of when.

    Not to be a downer. You may have year(s) and many miles before it becomes a problem. But lower MPG, and 10 years old, I would expect replacement is coming.

    Others may also disagree. But for most average people/owners, I just recommend replacing with a new OEM Toyota Battery. This recommendation is just based on reading numerous posts of refurbished, remanufactured Hybrid Batteries becoming problematic.
    I've read several threads where a owner puts in a re-built hybrid battery, then has problems, and challenges sometimes getting warranty coverage, repeated failures, etc....
    I don't think I've ever read a thread from someone that had a new Toyota OEM Hybrid Battery installed and then had a problem.

    If you're lucky, you'll get "aging" Hybrid Prius MPG...which is still great by most normal standards...for a long time and won't have to worry about it.
    But be prepared for the very real possibility that Hybrid Battery failure "could" happen.

    By the way, I don't know why a Toyota Dealer would say this because IMO it's NOT true.

    "Toyota dealer emphasized that it is extremely rare for the main battery to go bad."

    No...it's kind of the opposite. The main battery failing is an inevitability. It's a battery, keep it long enough, use it enough, eventually it is going to fail.

    If someone was buying a brand new Prius, I might say...it's extremely rare for it to fail, before warranty end, and you have at least 10+ years that you really shouldn't have to worry. BUT...

    IMO if you are buying a Prius already 10 years old? Then that obviously doesn't apply.
     
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    Ya exactly might as well be driving a civic. The 8th gens get about 36 hwy. at least my family’s get that much. And I do the maintenance which is the basic
     
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    What I do is order oil/filter off of Amazon or Walmart. I usually get Mobil One and Mobil One Filter for about $30.

    Then, any shop including a nationwide franchise (not sure about Toyota Dealership though), will change your oil for $20 if you bring supplies. This way you know you are getting good quality product put into your engine.

    My neighborhood oil change shop charges me $15.

    Lately, Amazon has been terrible for oil and Walmart has been amazing! Walmart is free 2 day shipping over $35.

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    Mobil One 5W30 Full Synthetic is $22.38 at Walmart: Mobil 1 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 5 qt. - Walmart.com

    Same oil is $33.78 on Amazon: Amazon.com: Buying Choices: Mobil 1 120764 Synthetic Motor Oil 5W-30, 5 Quart

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    $25.47 at Walmart ----->Mobil 1 5W-30 Extended Performance Full Synthetic Motor Oil: Mobil 1 5W-30 Extended Performance Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 5 qt. - Walmart.com

    Same oil is $37 and change on Amazon.

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    Amazon is $14.97 for the Mobil 1 M1-103 Extended Performance Oil Filter.

    Walmart is $9.97: Mobil 1 M1-103A Extended Performance Oil Filter - Walmart.com