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My favorite thing about the Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by Smaug1, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. The Electric Me

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    Sorry, I actually owned a plain ol' Gen 3. But it was a great vehicle.
    I now own a Honda Fit, which I also like. I don't really regret it.
    But there are definitely aspects to Hybrid Ownership that ONLY hybrid ownership offers.
     
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    You no longer own a Prius???!!
     
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    In 2006, I looked at a Gen 2 - and lots of other cars, but a Honda JAZZ - which is your FIT - ended up being 2nd on my short-list. Only let down by the lack of torque in the engine, on my test-drive, I seemed to be incessantly changing gears, compared with other small cars/hatches. I loved the layout though.

    They came out with a hybrid in about 2011 (?), but there seemed to be almost no stocks around, so I bought a FIESTA Diesel instead.
     
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    Doesn't the swear filter take "diesel" out on here ? :whistle:
     
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    Sorry to alarm you. :eek: I meant the parts about why he likes it. Same here. I still have two of them and am still lusting for a Gen 4 or a Prime. LOL!
     
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    Agree. All that good stuff outweighs any gripes I have about noise. And I can reduce most of the ICE and CVT growl by just simply switching out of PWR mode. :( It's a great car, no doubt about it.
     
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    Not in Australia - the market is expanding - the biggest selling "car" on the market is a horrid Hilux (Tacoma) truck thing with a tiny tray and 5 seats - with 90+% diesel. Followed by FORD's equivalent - then Corolla/Mazda3/Hyundaii30 fighting for the bronze medal.

    THough there has been a lot of press lately about Particulate Filters costing big $$$ for trucks not getting hot enough regularly - school runs etc not doing it well. And also something to do with injectors.

    So - maybe they'll turn to hybrids when they need replacing. Among the V8 & truck lovers Mention of "EV" or "hybrid" are enough to make them angry - bringing all the myths up "yeah and have to replace the battery at $6000 every 5 years" or "our power network won't cope".
     
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    The last 13 miles before reaching home are on a mountain road. I used the feature the first time today when I returned home after dark and absolutely loved it. That is the automatic high beam.

    Another one: Initially, I was slightly bummed out that Prius Two comes with only the Tonneau Cover because I thought it looked cheap and I liked the higher end look of that retractable cargo cover. But after a month of driving, I'm loving the tonneau cover. I like how it gets out of the way when I lift my trunk open. And then when I close the trunk, it hides everything from sight without me intervening.
     
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    ... which the retractable one doesn't. It's quite pathetic really. After a few weeks, I took mine off and I think it's in the shed/wardrobe/carport?? I'll find it before I trade the car.
     
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    Mine lives under the floor because I always have the rear seats folded down.
     
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    Well i feel that the engine is noisier in the 4th gen(notorious when engine kicks in) but the driving experience is smoother and quiet. Not no mention is quicker than before.
     
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    I am not sure which generation you’re comparing with. The Gen 3 & 4 engine is larger than the Gen 2 one.
     
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    I was comparing engine noise kick in with 3gen engine sounds louder now. Maybe is because the 4thGen is powerful. Hipermilling is easier in the 2016 prius. 58mpg is easy achievable
     
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    I'd hope it sounded different - it's a different car entirely:
    • It's a different platform - there is nothing in the chassis or body which is shared between the 2. So things like engine mounts, exhaust design all are total redesign;
    • It's a different ICE engine - based on the Gen 3, but appreciably different. TOYOTA says "retains the established 1.8-liter VVT-i gasoline engine, however, the engine has been completely re-engineered, with remarkable results in terms of performance, fuel economy, and reductions to size and weight.";
    • The inverter is a newer lighter design relocated snug up close to the engine;
    • It's a different planetary gearset - parallel now, and I think I read that it has 20% lower friction;
    • The 2 Electric Motors (MG1 & MG2) show no semblance of similarity to the Gen 3 - totally redesigned.
    I'd suspect that there would be almost nothing interchangeable between the Gen 3 and Gen 4 ICE, hybrid drivetrain or gearsets etc.

    Check out the Weber AUTO YouTubes - this one is just a brief summary of the differences between Gen 1, 2, 3 and 4.



    I think that if you own a Gen 4, it would be advantageous to watch this short video specifically on Gen 4:



    If you're more interested after that - there is this one - nearly 2 hours, which I found very interesting.

     
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    I don't think everybody it as enthusiastic about how the Prius works in such detail, but it's always good to know.
     
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    I think this is the first car I haven't read through the Workshop Manual - not the factory manual in many cases, but at least the Haynes manual.

    I've always found that understanding a bit of what's going on helps with driving sympathetically to the mechanical marvel that a motor car is - even though a lot of the repair processes are beyond what I'd tackle myself.
     
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    Somebody here worked on putting a Gen 4 engine into a Gen 3 Prius.

    Gen 4 to Gen 3, what you need to know | PriusChat
     
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    Oh - didn't realise that was being attempted. Sounds like almost as big a job as Bill the Engineer's FireBrid.
     
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