Demoncrats eat their own.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Aug 8 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]300025[/snapback]</div>

Well, Lieberman will always vote with the Democrats on most issues in the Senate, so he's independent in name only. But I think it does bode ill for the party as a whole. Just when the Republicans were going to hand them the House, Senate and White House on a silver platter, they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again.

It will be interesting to see if the rest of the Presidential candidates for 2008 move to the left now. Evan Bayh has already announced he will support Lamont (Bayh is one of the moderates who is considered a candidate for President, and I had pretty high hopes for him). Hillary may step up her criticism of the war and go back to her old position that she was "duped" into voting for it, and try to move back to her pro-Palestinian days ... everyone's forgotten about Islamic terror now, so we can go back to complacency and wait for another few thousand of our citizens to be slaughtered.)

 

This is worse than what the GOP did to McCain?

If Lieberman is on the ticket in California...I'm voting for him.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 8 2006, 10:26 PM) [snapback]300048[/snapback]</div>

Godiva...go have some chocolate and CALM DOWN. It CANNOT get that bad!

CAN IT?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 9 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]300048[/snapback]</div>

He is a Connecticut senator, running for re-election in Connecticut.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Aug 9 2006, 05:58 AM) [snapback]300124[/snapback]</div>

EWWWWW...TonyPSchaefer on Squid....ALMOST as disturbing an image as that in Squid's post... :blink:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rufaro @ Aug 9 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]300215[/snapback]</div>

Oh, so you have a problem with homosexuality?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Aug 9 2006, 09:30 AM) [snapback]300235[/snapback]</div>

Nope. It's that interspecies thing...Although I'm still waitin' for my invite to Bessie's and your wedding.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 9 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]300048[/snapback]</div>

I notice no one has addressed my statement.

Instead we get juvenile misdirection.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Aug 9 2006, 07:54 AM) [snapback]300123[/snapback]</div>

I thought he would run for President as an independent.

Too bad, really.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Aug 9 2006, 12:11 AM) [snapback]300025[/snapback]</div>

I agree. I do not agree with him a lots of stuff but he is a decent man, a man of the Civil Rights Movement, etc. I look at him as a old-time Democrat like Scoop Jackson. He obviously does not fit into todays Democratic party like JFK or Truman would not or even FDR or Hubert Humphrey. That is why I left them a few years ago as my dad did.

I can see a huge flight of American Jews away from the Democrats in the near future as they [the Democrats] move towards being less supportive of Israel and American Security.

It will be interesting to see what happens in November - although the present condition of the Democratic Party seems to be moving way way left (if that was possible).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 9 2006, 12:17 PM) [snapback]300264[/snapback]</div>

The problem with the Democrats is in the last 10 years, they aren't LEFT enough. They have moved so far right and center that most voters cannot discern between a Democrat or a Republican. You will always have far left Dems and far right Republicans but most politicians today are moderate, centrist.

The Democrats need to offer an opposing party. A true opposition. No more going along with the status quo. They need to question more, challenge more, don't back down. What we saw yesterday is a sign for change in this government.

In three months, you will see Americans vote for a change in government. Gone are the centrist Democrats. Gone are the Neo-Con Republicans. Let's back to a true two party system and solve our nations problems-health care, energy policy, minimum wage, etc... No more fluff issues (gay marriage, flag burning, etc...)

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 8 2006, 10:26 PM) [snapback]300048[/snapback]</div>

Huh? McCain lost in an open primary race for President and then was re-affirmed as his party's nominee and won reelection to his seat in the Senate. Lieberman lost as an incumbent, sitting Senator in his party's primary. This is even more striking since he was his party's choice for VP just a few years ago when he actually won the popular vote.

That, I think, is unprecidented.

By the way, how does "McCain - Liberman, 2008" sound to you?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fshagan @ Aug 10 2006, 12:15 AM) [snapback]300661[/snapback]</div>

Wasn't there some sort of swiftboating involved in that? GOP smearing their own? I seem to recall some character assassination because he dared run against Bush.

After what happened to McCain I'll never vote for him. He rolled over and played dead, then licked the hand that bit him. I prefer my candidates have both integrity and a backbone.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 10 2006, 01:10 AM) [snapback]300692[/snapback]</div>

Yes. They 'swiftboated' the heck out of him in the South Carolina primary. Thank Rove for that one. And then to appear to kiss nice person with him and the righteous right this year. Yuck. I like him and just wish he never compromised his integrity. I'm a Democrat and was thinking of voting for him in 2000 had he won the nomination.

I still can't believe he lost to Dubya in 2000. Amazing what money, power and greed can do. Simply amazing.

 

In McCain's defence, at least he drew the line at torture on a whim by the puppet cowering presently in the white house.

I personally still like him, although would not vote for anybody who supports continuing US presence in Iraq.

 

Someone asked why the Democrats are going to the left?

Because the Republicans are going to the right even further than they were.

So let's talk about the GOP eating their own.

Conservatives set their sights on Chafee

"The Club for Growth and its 36,000 members spent around $1 million to help challenger Tim Walberg unseat first-term Rep. Joe Schwarz in Michigan's Republican primary on Tuesday. The win came despite Schwarz's support from President Bush and the National Rifle Association."

"This year, the group's top priority is defeating Chafee, who angered many Republicans by voting against President Bush's tax cuts and then casting a write-in vote for the president's father in the last election. The Club has helped Cranston, R.I., Mayor Stephen Laffey raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to unseat Chafee, and polls show the two Republicans running even a month before the Sept. 12 primary."

"Moderate Republicans criticize the Club for targeting incumbents like Chafee instead of going after Democrats."

"Steve May, a former Arizona lawmaker who served briefly as a Club chapter president before being pushed out, said the organization throws conservative challengers up against moderate incumbents to scare them to the right."