Featured Panasonic to supply batteries for Honda's removeable power pack

This may not be a hot seller in the US but some parts of the world live on scooters and those small engines are not the most reliable either.
If they eventually get the price down below the one with the gasoline engine it will be a no brainer.
As for me, will the power pack fit my weed wacker?

 

Yes... If you think about all the battery types we use and then take back the billions in annual subsidies we give to the fossil fuel industry we could spend that fortune on standardized battery packs that you wouldn't have to own, you'd just have an adapter on everything and head to the former gas station to turn in your old discharged batch and grab a new batch that's precisely optimized to the use... The amount of money that would be saved, as well as the elimination of hazardous waste in all our closest from machines of days gone by would be huge.

 

No pain here. My LR model 3 soaks up excess solar power. Now, it would be even more useful if I could run our house off the car's battery pack. However, it doesn't make me too sad to have more battery than I normally need, any more than having more car seats than I normally need.

 

In the not too distant future I forsee your interests will lead to all your neighbors cheering you on as your Tesla Pickup Truck hauls in your gigawatt power supply trailer with Tesla Coil antenna that charges your batteries via static electricity in the air... Free electricity for all!!!

 

Nah, definitely don't need a PU truck and I already hand out clean solar energy to neighbors

 

Just like my weedwhacker and leaf blower !

Kenny

 

I bought a bunch of Greenworks products that run on 40 V Lithium batteries and love them. I have three batteries, two small ones and one large one. I have two different size weed wackers, a small leaf blower, a chainsaw and a hedge shears on a pole,

 

I've had a PIP for 6 years and thought the same thing -- about not wanting to haul around more battery than I really needed (over 40K miles on the PIP and 67% in EV). When I had my Leaf (2015 to June 2018) I also could drive most everyplace I want to go -- but not 100%). Now that I have a Model 3 I'm not really worried about it. I'm getting below 200 watt-hrs per mile on my daily commute -- overall it is 205 wh/m. In my Leaf it was closer to 250. And in the PIP about 180. I'll give up that 10% for a car that can go 300+ miles on a charge. It wouldn't be worth the hassle of swapping for a small/medium/large battery and the issues of was it newer or older, etc. Did I really get "my" battery back and having to stop at the right place. In 5 or 10 years we'll all (probably) have the option of 100 miles or 600 miles or anywhere in between.

Mike

 

If you truly want sustainability and worldwide change I'm not sure your personal strategy is best to implement for everyone. Think of all the extra materials we not only need to produce, but then haul around even when you aren't using them. To me there is no difference between that and cooling an entire house when you only need one room cooler. I'm not trying to be judgy...just trying to insert a little truth into our desires, wants, and needs.

 

No where did I propose this for everyone. I apologize if I wasn't clear.
And I agree with the concept of using less. However, in some cases, there are hidden advantages, including getting more people out of gas cars and into electric.

 

Yep, would definitely agree with that. And I think that is Elon's goal with the super-way-too-high-over-powered beasts that are Tesla's. He is trying to make them attractive to ICE owners due to them being comically and wastefully overpowered. But yes, I think we are on the same page.

 

Good point... We're living in the early days of all this battery stuff. Federal funding for standardization and regulation (if there was still an interest in such things) would be a huge help to these relatively established engineering solutions. But it all pivots on shifting billions in annual federal subsidies from the fossil fuel industry to a still very young and nowhere close to being dominating battery industry.

 

I agree, but engineering and regulatory issues can be worked through.

 

Definitely some good points. And energy density should only improve making lighter and lighter batteries.