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Gen2 Prius Engine Removal Guide - Out the top of the engine bay

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  1. BodenM

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    Hi all,

    When I went to replace the engine in my 2008 Prius I found that there was no guides to removing the engine on its own through the top of the bay, only on how to remove both the engine and transaxle at the same time by dropping them out the bottom (which I didn't really see as a good idea given I lack access to a hoist, and I would prefer to wrangle an 80kg engine on its own rather than trying to wrangle both that and a 130kg transaxle), or on how to only remove the transaxle on its own. Straight up engine failures in NHW20s seem to be reasonably uncommon which is probably why this is the case. In my case, the engine had seized up totally, likely from overheating, as when I got the car it had no serpentine belt, the oil was about 50% coolant, and when I drained the engine cooling loop, I got maybe 100mL out of it, and most of that was from the reservoir bottle. I apologise for the lack of pictures, I didn't think to take many during the removal but I hope these written instructions will suffice. For reference, my car is RHD, and I will be referring to sides of the car as you would see them from the driver's seat, so when I say "right hand side of the car", I'm referring to the same side that I would be sitting on when driving.

    Tools/Supplies Required:
    • Yourself
    • A friend who can follow directions and use their eyes and brain competently
    • An engine that is not deader than a dodo
    • An engine crane, preferably with a load leveller
    • A jack, the lower profile the better as you will have to slide the jack well under the car to reach the front lifting point on the K-frame
    • Jackstands (for the love of all that is good do NOT get under or work on a car supported only by a jack, and you will need the jack anyway to support the transaxle later on so it can't be holding up the car)
    • A full set of metric sockets (in particular 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 17mm, 19mm and 21mm)
    • A breaker bar, preferably two, a shorter one and a longer one. I only had a 750mm long one, which proved to be a pain in the nice person when removing transaxle-engine bolts as it was too long to properly fit while under the car for many bolts which made removing them harder than it needed to be)
    • An impact gun (optional, but VERY useful especially when reattaching the engine to the transaxle and removing the pulleys)
    • Screwdrivers, both Phillips and flathead, of varying sizes
    • A prybar, or alternatively a really big flathead screwdriver
    • A multimeter capable of reading at least 450V DC, so when you go to remove the inverter you can see if it's about to turn you into human BBQ or not.
    • Something to catch drained fluids, and some bottles to put them into dispose of them correctly.
    • Mechanic's gloves, or if you don't have these, band-aids as you will likely skin your knuckles more than a few times.
    • Eye protection, when you are working under a dirty car, dirt and other crud WILL fall down as you shake it loose while unbolting things so unless you enjoy getting that in your eyes I would recommend wearing at least some basic safety glasses.
    • A service's worth of oil and coolant, and an oil filter. For everywhere in the world except the US and Canada, you will need approx. 7.5L of pink Toyota Super Long Life Coolant to completely refill both the engine and inverter cooling loops. For the US and Canada you will need approx 10L as you have the coolant heat recovery tank to contend with.
    • A tube of molybdenum grease (optional but recommended). I used this to lubricate the splines on the transaxle input shaft and the engine's mass damper, it will help them slide back together. Don't use too much else it will stop you from sliding the transaxle on all the way, you only want and need a thin smear of it on both surfaces. It will also prevent the splines from sticking to one another which will make separating the two easier if you ever have to do it again.
    • A new serpentine belt (optional). You'll be removing it to do this so it's a good time to fit a fresh one anyway.

    Step 0: Now to begin with, you will want to follow the instructions from Lam's excellent Gen II transaxle removal guide, up until step 35, where he details on how to remove the axles. We will obviously not need to do this as the transaxle will be staying where it is. You will also not need to drain the transmission fluid, but now is a good time to change it if it needs to be changed. The wiring harness you've disconnected can be draped over the passenger's side (LHD driver's side) guard to keep it out of your way while working. You will also need to remove the intake as we will obviously using a crane to lift the engine.

    Step 1: You will need to drain the engine you are removing of as much of its fluids as you can, particularly coolant, unless you enjoy the engine dripping on you while you're grunting underneath the car and wiggling the engine around. Remember to use the drain fitting on the back of the block and on the left hand side radiator tank to drain as much of the coolant out. Once the coolant has drained you can disconnect the two radiator hoses from the engine (beware of the spring clamps used, they are a gigantic pain to remove and I want to find the person who thought these particular ones with clips were a great idea and poop in their breakfast cereal), as well as the heater core hoses. While you are under the car, now is a great time to unbolt the exhaust manifold from the rest of the exhaust, I used the impact with an extension on the 14mm bolts and that took them off no problem. Set the bolts aside, and do not lose the springs from those bolts. Now is a good time to remove the fuel feed line as well, just remove the black plastic support clips (they just pop off), and then squeeze the yellow button on one of the fittings and pull it off. There may be 40psi of fuel pressure behind it if you've gone to IG-ON recently so eye protection is probably a good idea for this step unless you enjoy potentially getting petrol in your eyes. Disconnect the other end as well and place the hose aside for now.

    Step 2: You'll need to clear some space on the right hand side of the engine bay so the engine can come up without hitting too many things. Because of how Toyota has laid out components in the bay you will need to first remove the washer bottle as it's covering a few crucial bolts. Disconnect the two washer pumps at the front of the bottle, there is an electrical connector on both as well as a simple rubber hose for each. If your washer bottle has fluid in it, once you remove the hoses it will start draining so I would suggest emptying the bottle beforehand, or leaving the hoses until you have the bottle freed from its perches. It is being held in place by one 10mm bolt at the back of the bottle and two clips, one upper one at the front holding it to the frame behind the headlight, and one lower one holding it to the wheel well. I wasn't able to get to the top clip with the headlight still in place, so I ended up breaking it off, the bottle is still held in place by the other clip and the bolt quite fine. The lower clip should just pop out with a little bit of prying. Once you have these removed you can remove the washer bottle with a bit of jiggling and set it aside. Now that you have the washer bottle out of the way you can remove the 3 10mm bolts holding the brake fluid reservoir bracket in place. You can then tilt the reservoir upwards, and use one of the 10mm bolts through the lower bracket hole into the threaded hole where one of the upper bracket bolts went to hold the reservoir up and out of the way. You can also remove the reservoir entirely, but that will mean you will have to completely flush the brake system afterwards with fresh fluid as you will have exposed the brake system to open air and contaminants.

    At this point your engine bay should look something like this (note brake fluid reservoir suspended in the corner to keep it out of the way):
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    Step 3: Now that you've cleared some room for the engine to depart its home, you can start unbolting the engine from the transaxle. There are 6 14mm bolts and 2 19mm bolts holding the two together, start with the two 14mm bolts at the front side of the engine holding a cover plate on where a starter would normally be on a 1NZ-FE, these are shorter than the rest of the bolts so don't mix them up. Then, remove the upper two 14mm bolts on the rear side of the engine. The uppermost bolt is the most difficult to get to out of any of them as the axle is in your way and makes it hard to get a good swing on a breaker bar or spanner. What I did was use the impact gun with several extensions squeezed up between the engine and firewall and let it loose on that bolt to get it out, just pass the extensions through the exhaust manifold brace and it works. The other 14mm bolts you will need use use a breaker bar or long spanner on as there is not enough clearance to the block to use a rattle gun. Once you have those two bolts undone, you will need to unbolt the lower torsion mount as it is stopping you from accessing the last two bolts holding the engine and transaxle together. You will need a 19mm socket for this on the breaker bar or impact gun, there is a nut on the other side with a protrusion on it to stop it from spinning when tightening or loosening the bolts. You will also need to remove the 19mm bolt and nut holding the torsion mount arm to the K-frame. Once these bolts have been removed, the mount can be removed and set aside. Before proceeding any further, you will need to support the engine with an engine crane, as well as the transmission with a jack, as once you remove the last two bolts they will want to start coming apart. I looped one of the chains from the load leveller on the engine crane around the intake manifold, and the other chain I bolted the end of to an unused 14mm bolt hole on the back right side (looking at it from the front) of the engine. Once both are supported, the remaining two 14mm bolts can be removed.

    Step 4: Now that there is nothing holding the engine and transaxle together, you are almost ready to separate the two. You will need to remove the remaining engine mount now, for this you need to first remove the two 14mm nuts on the underside of the mounting bracket on the engine, then you can remove the two 14mm nuts on the top of the engine bracket. Then, you will need to remove the two 14mm nuts holding the engine mount to its bracket on the body. You should then be able to slide the mount off the studs and remove it, you may have to give the A/C hard line a bit of a tweak to clear it (but be gentle, you don't want to kink or puncture it). Then, the 14mm bolts holding the bracket to the body can be removed as well.

    Step 5: Before you can lift the engine out, you will need to remove the crank pulley and water pump pulley, as they will prevent you from sliding the engine over enough to get it off the input shaft and clear the transaxle bellhousing. I used the impact for this as it meant the pulleys didn't have to be pinned in place, but if you aren't using one, I would suggest cracking the water pump pulley bolts while the serpentine belt is still on as it will give you some extra resistance to stop the pump from spinning. You will need to remove the serpentine belt, to do this, crack the 14mm nut on the front of the tensioner loose but do not remove it(you may need the breaker bar for this, I did as mine had been done up ridiculously tight), and start turning the 12mm bolt on the top of the tensioner bracket anti-clockwise to release the tension on the belt. If the tensioner does not move and instead the bolt starts coming up, try undoing the pinch nut on the tensioner a little more, if that doesn't move the tensioner you may need to give the 12mm bolt a tap from a dead-blow hammer to free it, you don't need to wail on it but just a firm tap should free it.

    Step 6: We are ready to lift the engine out at this point. Before you do so, take a moment to look everything over and make sure you have disconnected all of the hoses and wiring anchoring the engine into the bay, unless you feel like testing the tensile strength of said hoses and wiring with the engine crane. Once you are sure everything is disconnected and moved out of the way, start moving the engine to the left to get it off the transaxle. This will take a fair amount of wriggling and jiggling of the engine, along with some assistance from Mr Pry Bar, but once you have the engine almost touching the right hand side frame rail you should be clear of the input shaft and bellhousing and you can start moving upwards. As you bring the engine up you will also want to bring it forwards a bit to clear the A/C, brake and fuel hard lines behind the engine. Take it slow, one person should be watching the engine carefully as the other person jacks it up, watching for things it is about to get hung up or caught on. Done correctly, you should now have a scene looking something like this:
    [​IMG]

    Step 7: You will now need to prep the new engine to take the place of the old one. The engine I had was complete, so the only things I had to do were remove the wiring harness from the new engine, take the pulleys off, apply some moly grease to the transaxle input shaft and mass damper splines, and get it hooked onto the crane, but depending on where you got your engine you may need to transfer other components over at this time. Now is also a good time to replace the oil filter on the new engine while it's on the crane and easier to access.

    Step 8: Now you get to shoehorn that sucker back in there. Installation is the reverse of removal, and remember to be careful not to snag anything on the way down, lest gravity test the strength of an important engine bay component. Use the jack and engine crane to get the transaxle and engine reasonably well aligned before you shove the two back together, and then you can tighten the bolts down to stop them from trying to run away on you. Reinstall the engine mount and lower torsion mount, bolt the exhaust back on, connect the engine coolant hoses, put the brake reservoir and washer bottle back in place, reconnect the wiring, reinstall the inverter, reconnect the inverter coolant hoses, refit the bonnet and splash guards and you're pretty much done. Don't forget to fill the engine with oil and both loops with coolant before the first start.

    When refilling the engine coolant, there is a bleed valve on the left hand side of the radiator core support, you'll see a large hole and a warning sticker above it, stick a hex key in it (I believe it is a 6mm hex key) and loosen it before starting to fill the radiator, that will make your life much easier when it comes to filling as you won't have to stop every few seconds to let air bubble out of the radiator neck. Keep filling until coolant starts coming out of the bleed valve and then retighten the plug with the hex key. Top up the radiator to the top of the fill neck and leave the cap off, and then top up the overflow bottle to the full mark, you will need to stop and check several times as you cannot easily see the full mark and fluid level unless you look at the back of the bottle. While you let more air bubble out of the engine cooling loop, you can start filling the inverter coolant loop. First things first, you'll want to grab a 10mm socket or spanner and open the bleeder on the front of the inverter. Again, this will make your life much easier. Open the cap on the inverter coolant reservoir and start filling. You may have to stop several times and let the coolant flow into the loop depending on how fast you can pour. Keep filling until coolant starts coming out of the bleeder valve, and then retighten the valve, and resume filling the reservoir until you reach the full mark. Check the radiator again, the coolant level will likely have dropped again so top it up again.

    Now you are ready for the first start. You will want to start the Prius in Inspection Mode so the engine runs continuously (there are plenty of guides on how to do this if you search, it involves a bit of a dance with the pedals), and then set the climate control to max heat. Now go back to the front of the car, and as the coolant level in both the inverter and engine loops drop you will want to top each of them up. Once they stop dropping, put the caps back on each system and switch the car off to cancel Inspection Mode. Now you are ready to take the car for a test drive. I would suggest connecting an OBD-II dongle at this point and running an app like Torque Pro to monitor the engine temp as well as inverter temp, these should both remain at reasonable levels during the test drive if you have filled the cooling loops correctly. I do not have any advice for North American market cars and filling the engine cooling loop, since you have the coolant heat recovery tank that other markets do not have, but there are lots of guides out there on how to do a coolant change with that system so I won't (and can't) go over it here. If your test drive is successful, congratulations, you have successfully executed an engine R&R on your Gen II Prius. Don't forget to re-check and top up the coolant as-needed once the car cools down and over the next few days of driving it as air works its way out of the loops completely.
     
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    Great write up and great contribution to the community. I'm sure many people will benefit from this.

    Nice to see a major job tackled by an owner.
     
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    This was a great write up and very detailed! I referred to a few others and came up with my own hybrid approach. When I began to disassembling components I was referring to another source which instructed me to remove the radiator assembly. I discovered this write up after the fact The only thing that differed with this approach was I believe with the radiator out of the way it allowed me a little more wiggle room and I was able to remove the engine without removing the pulleys from the side of the motor. Depending on what other work may or may not be necessary on your vehicle I would have to say in hindsight leaving the radiator in place and following this guide would have saved me some time and aggravation as I had to bring the angle grinder out to separate radiator from the AC condenser from one of the lower mounts

    Now that I have the engine out with the donor engine almost ready to drop back in I would like to ask for any suggestions in regards to preventative maintenance I could do with the engine on the floor. I bought this vehicle as a project with the known issue of a rod sticking out the side of the engine. The replacement engine I purchased was from the same model year as mine which is 2007 with approximately the same mileage 140,000 I guess my concern with being unfamiliar with these cars is running into the same problem the last engine experienced as the year and mileage are almost equal
     
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    If you have time, and want to lengthen your project, rebuild the engine.
    Rehone cylinder, new piston rings, new main bearings, new o-rings, new gaskets/seals, new valve (spring/seal/guides), new timing chain, and possibly other parts. Hopefully these parts aren't too much.​

    A rebuild like this would give you an engine that realistically won't burn oil for 100K. Prius' seem to burn oil as they approach/exceed 100K miles. As the donor engine stands, it most likely burns oil. If the donor burns a lot, your catalytic converter will live a shortened life, assuming the original engine didn't burn too much oil.
     
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    Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I don't have the time a rebuild at the moment. Is there any known issues with the engine / trans that I could check or perform preventative maintenance on with the engine/trans split?
     
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    I would suggest at minimum removing the head and replacing the valve stem seals, or even better, taking the head to a machine shop to have the head disassembled and refinished.
     
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    The engine with the rod out the side of the block was run out of engine oil and continued to be driven till hilarity ensued. See a lot of those as high mileage g2s eat oil and no one checks there engine oil anymore.
    Engine knocking and they keep driving. Idiots.
    Keep your donor engine oil level at the full line at all times and you’ll be fine. Check oil alot first few weeks in the morning Before starting the car for true oil level usage till you get a handle on it’s oil loss.
    Would really Suck to run your donor dry.

    As a side note on my bought new in 07 Prius I have always kept the engine oil at the full line
    And see Very minor oil loss between 5000 miles oil change. Maybe a 1/4 of a quart over 5000 miles.
    Was seeing a like more before I moved up to a 40 weight oil and that really helped. I am at 130000 miles.
    So that tells me not consistently keeping the oil at the full line is damaging the piston oil scavenge ring.
    In a 140000 mile motor I woukd run 40 weight oil.
     
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    +1!
     
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    Thanks for the replies gentlemen! Sorry for my delayed response but I have been busy getting this thing back together. I got everything hooked back up to Get it running in inspection mode after a few attempts most likely to repressurizing the fuel system. After having it start successfully in inspection mode I could not repeat the process trying to start the vehicle under normal conditions or an inspection mode. Did some brief troubleshooting can't say what if anything fixed my issue but I pressed and held the ignition button for approximately 40 seconds not touching anything else the vehicle still would not start so I disconnected the 12 V harness waited a few minutes and plugged it back in. After that all was well in the vehicle started, was charging, and I gave the wheels spin while it was still up on the Jackstands... just realized as I am writing this I did not throw it in reverse Ohh wellstill have a few things to do to get it buttoned up.

    Thanks for the suggestions in regards to preventative maintenance but I think I'm going to roll with at the edthefox on this one.

    I made my best effort to use factory called for fluids, but after doing what I felt was significant research I went with the Prestone (Toyota) coolant and 30 weight oil. It looks like for call Lynn is still up for debate I will report back with my experience and will check the fluids thoroughly for the first couple weeks/30 days to take note of any changes.

    I will mention in closing that I have been interested in hybrids/EV's for sometime. I purchased this vehicle as a project, Learning opportunity, save a few $$ at the pump, and a challenge to myself to keep it under $1000... so far Im in $650 for the car, ~$40 for the Dino juice to go look at it, $55 in fludids, and $200 for the donor engine... it's going to be close because I am getting the fault code to replace the HV batt. I wanted to get what appeared to be the most labor-intensive portion completed first run the vehicle for a while to take note of its energy consumption then go after replacing the bad cells I believe the last time I looked they were selling for about 40 each hopefully I don't need more than one!
     
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    I know this is probably redundant but read some posts on the battery pack.
    If I'm reliably informed you can DIY a repair for just the cost of a cell or two and maybe still stay close to your $1,000 budget.....

    Great Work!
     
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    Yes that looks to be the case. I would still like to do a little more research to see what is going to be the best approach as some people state you have to balance each individual cell and others say that you can simply install them at any voltage in any order and the vehicle will balance them without user intervention.
     
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    If they are far apart the car will not fix it on its own.
    It won't be able to charge the low ones high enough because the high ones will stop the charging too soon.

    And the discharge will stop too soon because the low ones will stop the charge before the high ones get to use all their capacity.

    That is, if the car actually bothers to let you run at all. Of the difference is to great, the car will notice that and lock you out.

    Cheapest option is to build your own high voltage, low current charger and charge the pack yourself. Or borrow one from a friend or local club.

    Same with the discharger so you can do the discharge.

    Do this cycle as often as you like.

    On the final cycle, charge it a usuable voltage and then install in the car.
     
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    Can the process you mentioned above be completed with the pack still in the car or does it need to be removed? If the pack needs to be removed and if I followed correctly... could I just simply identify the bad cells and replace them so that's the difference between the hi ones in the low ones are within tolerance and will be recognized as acceptable by the system?

    As far as the allowable voltage spectrum what is the acceptable high and low Numbers?

    For example if 7.5 is the low-end and 8.2 is the high-end is it safe to say that any individual cell that is greater than or equal to 7.5 and less than or equal to 8.2 is acceptable in the eyes of the computer?

    I know I'm getting away from the original subject matter of this thread. Please inform me if I should create a new thread as I am new to this community which has been fantastic so far! Thanks for all the help!
     
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    Simply charging/discharging in the car is fine.

    But when it comes to replacing modules, Anything is possible, but it is way safer to do without the battery in the car.
    You have to access the underside of the pack so you have to move the pack around a bit.
    High voltage and metal is not a good combination.

    I'd want to have the modules within 0.1v of each other.

    But they can be much farther apart if you are going to follow up by slowly charge the pack (say 0.350 amp near the higher SOC)
     
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    I am so grateful for this write up! PM me your shipping address and I will send you some of my wife's extraordinary chocolate chip cookies!
     
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    I wonder if this advice will apply to me...Last year my 2008 clogged the catalytic converter and, in order to pass CA smog test, I had to replace it. US$1,900 is a lot of cash for me so I promised myself that I would get the engine rebuilt in order to avoid clogging the new cat.
    Well, I kept putting it off and here I am 37k miles later, starting to get sporadic catalytic errors on the ECU.
    Is it possible that whatever is clogging my cat may be coming from dirty (or worn out) valve seals?
    It would be a lot easier for me to remove the head and take that to the machine shop than to remove the whole engine!! plugsAfter37kMiles_A.jpg plugsAfter37kMiles_B.jpg
     
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    Very likely, those plugs look nasty. Have you tried high mileage oil? It has seal swellers that may help.
     
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    OP: HUGE car guy props to you for this guide. My Queensland Heelers salute you.

    I'm in the same boat as you - I have a CEL on and off with emissions system codes. I'm also seeing a little more oil consumption than I'm comfortable with and I'm occasionally seeing some engine sputtering. I probably need a suspension refresh and will probably need a new traction battery soon. At this point, while I am attached to the car, I can't help but consider retiring it because it's going to take a ton of my time to address the issues.

    edit: here are my plugs

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    This write up and help from Hobbit and Avi of Hybrid Fix. Los Angeles enabled me to change my engine successfully. Avi told me you had to remove the pulleys on the front of the engine and the water pump. It seemed like a lot of work so I tried to get the engine out without removing all the pulleys. THAT DID NOT WORK Then I tried all the pulleys. THAT DID NOT WORK. Then I removed the water pump that worked. Thanks AVI!

    Also I do not recall reading anything about removing the wire hardness from inside the passenger compartment but the picture with the engine on the host shows the wire harness draped over the fender next to the transmission. I spent a lot of time researching this and found another post. It is actually very easy. You just remove the lower glove box (there are pictures on how to do this relating to cabin air filter) and possibly you have to remove the panel below the box. It pulls straight out. The upper cable bundle has five connectors going to all four computers. Four of them can be removed with an ordinary pliers effortlessly. One jaw on the release and the other on the other side of the connector. One has a smaller release so you have to use a needle nose pliers.

    The biggest pain is the connectors attached to the engine.. My 2007 was 13 years old so the connectors were quite stuck. I used penetrating oil to help and wiped it off as soon as I got the connectors apart. Almost all the connectors are different except for those connected to the injectors and spark plug coils. This means you never have to worry about connecting things up wrong but it also means you need a good shop light to study the connectors and even see were the release arm is. GOOD LIGHTING IS ESSENTIAL AND A TABLE FOR YOUR TOOLS.

    There were many times I wanted to give up but my car was in Montana. I called three mechanics and none of them worked on hybrids. The dealer wanted $2,700 to do the work so I had no choice. But after all the work; the engine started right up the first time. Also with all my attempts to get the engine out one of the boots on a universal joint came off. The tool to put a new clamp on cost $40 and the auto-parts store did not have one in stock. I found a mechanic who checked to make sure the grease was still clean and put on a new clamp for $25.00. The clamp was around $3.00.

    If you take all the pulleys and the water pump off before you try to lift the engine you should not have problems with axle boots.

    I also tried not to remove the inverter on the top of the transmission but I could not even see the upper bolts that connect the engine to the transmission so I did remove it. Perhaps it can be done without removing the inverter box that but I could not do that.

    Hobbit told me how to get the car in neutral without starting the engine. Hit the start button twice with foot off brakes. Foot on brakes put car in neutral. Thanks hobbit

    Bernie of eLearnAid
     
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  20. tacopyro

    tacopyro Member

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    2012 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Hi @bernie3015,

    How are you? I'm still using the HV battery i got from you last year.

    I agree, pulley, water pump needs to be removed to have enough space to take engine out. AC compressor also, bungied and set aside. i did not need to remove the passenger side harness to the ECU. i just unplugged from the engine and folded them carefully over to the inverter and held them with bungies. i did not need to remove the inverter nor the transaxle. i did remove the intake and exhaust manifold to make it easier since i'm doing this alone. i didnt have to touch the transaxle at all aside from unbolting them from the engine and the bottom support. i did not remove the fans from the radiator also.
    The one thing i didnt do that i wish i did was to secure the transaxle so when i was putting it back. it didnt flop around so much and it didnt take 2 hours to finally get them together.
    for the connectors, i always use a pair of hose pliers to remove them. i just dont have enough grip strength and my fingers are too soft.

    Funny how there is more documentation on Gen3 than Gen2 on this procedure. took me 10 hours to get the engine out. i can probably do it in 6 hours next time. 2 hours just trying to get it out with the pulley and pump still on. :D
    all in all very similar steps to a gen3.