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  1. iplug

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    Can't get enough. Just bought 3rd tranche today.
     
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    I suspect the ‘chicken little’ investors have figured out the “noise machine” is not their friend.

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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Took some TSLA profits to diversify by selling 20 of 70 shares:
    • TSLA - 50 shares, mining luxury car market
    • KL - 365 shares, gold mining
    The TSLA holdings are my milk cow but if (when) the Orange One economy returns, we'll not be wiped out.

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    On a somewhat related note...I sold out of all my GM stock after an exec recently said they will not electrify pickups for a couple decades. My initial long thesis was that GM was the only company other than Tesla that was trying for the 3 pillars of what any future auto company needs to have (IMO). Those are: electrification, autonomy, and ride-sharing.
    Went I went long GM was ahead of everyone but Tesla in their electrification efforts. That has now changed.
    They were in 3rd or 4th position in ride-sharing with Maven. That might not have changed, but they don't seem to have super ambitious goals for it.
    And autonomy goes without saying with Cruise. I still think they are near the top with that offering.
     
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    nice wrap for the week
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    date        TSLA    KL     TSLA%  KL%
    11/16 09:30 $345.19 $19.00  121% 100%
    11/16 16:00 $354.31 $18.97  124%  99%
    

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    One of the very few stocks that did not get crushed or even dented today.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    My gold stock did OK too.

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    Counter-cyclical, perhaps.
     
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    I bought it specifically for that purpose:
    • ~70% TSLA holdings
    • ~30% KL holdings
    Once I diversified, I've been doing daily tracking and this month has been interesting. Yes, I am using percentage not to obscure as much as track what happened:
    [​IMG]
    • The X-axis is Monday-to-Monday
    • Week 11/11 the counter cyclical is as expected ... bulls up and gold down
    • Week 11/17 still counter cyclical ... bulls down and gold up
    • Week 11/25 What The Frog!
    • Week 12/02 gold rate is going up faster than my bull stock
    I read the earnings report and KL is doing a lot of things right. Capital investment is improving their production and they've run into new, significant reserves. They are controlling their costs and even had some executive tuning. So I can't claim their uptick is just counter cyclical until I compare with the other gold stocks. Still it is a disturbing trend.

    As for TSLA, even during an economic downturn, some companies still do well. If you have a superior product and good management, customers will find and buy.

    If I followed traditional practices, I would change the TSLA/KL ratio to 50%/50% but I know we'll see the TSLA Q4 production numbers the first week in January and Q4 financials the first week of February. Having read all TSLA quarterly reports since Q3 2017, I'm really curious to see what happens next.

    Bob Wilson

    ps. The best way to loose your shirt is to follow stock advice you read on the Internet, FOX business, and CNBC.

    pps. Treat my initial investment as ~$20k which means if I liquidated everything, my gross is up ~$4k for November. These chips are still on the table.

    ppps. The TSLA shooters have got to be doing a slow burn.
     
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    cd's are up to 3%(y)
     
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    nasdaq down, tesla up!
     
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    cnbc 'tesla stock crossed key milestone today'
     
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    Classic counter cyclical:
    [​IMG]


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    Getting to close to my 420 put. This weekend I'll put TSLA:
    • 10 shares at 420 - take profit to increase KL stock and snicker
      • The 'shorts' will soon (are) covering their position. Can you spell 'panic buying.'
    • 40 shares at 600 - to prevent use as 'short'
    Once the 10, TSLA sell, I'll covert to gold (KL). This will bring the ratio to 57% (Tesla) to 43% (gold). Hopefully long enough to get the production numbers in 3-4 weeks.

    Bob Wilson

    ps. The best way to lose your shirt is to take investment advice from the Internet.
     
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    don't worry :cool:
     
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    I'm not worried as much as curious.

    I'll leave the 10 shares put at $420 until the Q4 report comes out. There is a good chance the 'shorts' are facing a grim future and will have buy ... against the other shorts. That can jack the price up quickly when the panic occurs. If anything, I may be too cautious about the $420 but there are historical reasons for leaving it there ... and it would be hilarious.

    BTW, I Googled Tesla's 'short status' on Saturday and nothing current has been posted.

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    "60 Minutes" did 16 minutes of Elon Musk interview. A fair piece, it is more aimed at those who don't have a clue about Musk.

    Bob Wilson