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Brake pad replacement after 142k but they really didn't need it.

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by TexAmi, Nov 19, 2018.

  1. TexAmi

    TexAmi Junior Member

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    I have included pictures of my front and rear brake pads after 142k. I drive mainly highway in Texas. 2013 Prius 4. I changed them bc I could hear them squeaking. I found out later that it was most likely squeaking bc the shim lube had dried and it had.

    I went to the Napa dealer with the list of lubes from the Nuts and Bolts youtube video. The lubes they suggested are great, but I would have spent more than a complete brake job at the Toyota dealer. So I bought a small 5oz tube of Ultra Brake Parts Lubricant(synthetic) by Permatex from Napa for like $5 and lubed the shims and the pins. Might as well do both of them while you are doing the job. There are two Nuts and Bolts videos covering both topics.

    Don't forget to disengage the battery and put the remote far away. You might also roll down the windows before killing the battery. I disengaged both batteries. This caused a error after performing the procedure. Remember that replacing the orange tab has three steps! Yes three steps!! Insert, lever down and slide. Don't forget the slide!!!

    I only replaced the front which I bought off eBay from some guy in Miami who had sold over 300 of them...Wow. The rear pads are tiny and were only slightly used.

    The top picture shows the old front pads with the Toyota replacement pad box.
    The botton two images show the rear brake pads which still have the wear marker groove still visible. The new front pads have this grove.

    Hope this helps. Good Luck!!

    PS I do not know the Nuts and bolts guys but his video worked for me
     

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    This is a maintaince item that should be done every 36,000 miles or 3 years. Many people say “lowest maintenance vehicle ever, just change oil and filter, nothing else.” Then come back here with seized rotors and dealer replaced, changes mind to worse car ever bought in regret :p
     
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  3. TexAmi

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    Or how about the oil consumption problem in the Gen 3 Prius? You would have thought Toyota would have recalled all the vehicles with this problem. My Gen 2 Prius never used a drop.

    I have heard of the 2010-2013? Rav4, Camerys etc engines were recalled for oil consumption. Why not the Prius or at least install an warning light this comes on when level drops to 3 quarts rather than two.
     
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    Second post and you're off topic lol. Anyway: the warning light is for low oil pressure, not any particular oil level.
     
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    :LOL:

    This is the trend now in turd gen forum, it's only matter of time that it goes to heck.
     
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    Take on the rears now? Even if the pad thickness is ok, the interval (per @grid) there is there more than just pad replacement.

    Just disconnecting the 12 volt is sufficient, and before reconnecting, pump the brake pedal multiple times, to take up any excess brake pedal travel, which can throw a code.

    Be careful with the rears, to orient the caliper piston so that the spoke pattern on it's face is like a letter "X" (see attachment, there's a picture showing correct orientation), so that the pin on back of pad is in between the spokes. And well seated thus (brake pedal pushes).

    Avoid using the parking brake at first, post-brake-job, take the car for a test drive, then apply/release the parking brake a few times, then raise the rear and verify the wheels are turning fairly freely, say a turn or two after you give it a push. If they drag badly it's likely the caliper piston has managed to rotate, and you need to remedy that.
     
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    A few months ago I replaced my tires at an NTB store. When they finished up they said my brake pads were at 5mm. He said they were in good shape as I still am not good at the metric system. 2 weeks later had a leak in a tire and took it to a different NTB to get fixed because it was closest to me at the time. That manager came back to me and told me my brakes were shot, and metal to metal. I told him that was odd that 2 weeks before, I was told 5mm. I said no to the brake job and went home and removed the wheels to check for myself. Fronts were at 5mm and rears were closer to 6mm. looked online and found 9mm to be the new spec.
    Oh yeah, the other thing that tipped me off that he was making it up was he told me the drums in the rear could be turned, but the rotors on the front would have to be replaced.
     
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    Front pads new are 10.0 (mm) and rears are 9.5.

    Regular in-depth brake inspections are recommended by Toyota USA, every 30K miles or 36 months (in Warranty and Maintenance Guide booklet), regardless of remaining pad depth. These should include pulling the caliper off the rotor,.inspectioning/cleaning the pads, shims, caliper and rotor, clean/relube of the caliper pins, and relube of the contact points between pads/shims/caliper.
     

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    At 219250, and because I was rotating the tires, I looked at the rear brakes. Rear thickness is between 4-5mm. The previous owner had the maintenance done religiously by the dealer, and there was no mention of rear brakes being done. The front were done due to a leaking caliper at 120k. So it looks like I will likely not have to replace them for quite a long time.