1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Plug was frozen in charge inlet.

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by avprod1, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. avprod1

    avprod1 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    5
    2
    0
    Location:
    Wheaton, IL
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Icy rain froze the plug in the charge inlet. I thawed it with warm towels. A small clip came off in my hand that looks like it might be part of the latching mechanism. I brought the clip and cable to the dealership and they were not able to reinstall it for me. A 30-year Toyota tech worked at it for a while. There was another PIP in the lot to compare (see photos). The first is mine and the second shows the missing piece.

    Their solution: purchase new plug for $220 plus labor of $300 to install! Service manager would not run this under warranty.

    There has GOT to be a better solution.
    3D print the part?
    Locate part from wrecked car? ​

    Your ideas are most appreciated.

    IMG_1907-circle.jpg IMG_1910-circle.jpg
     
  2. Pluggo

    Pluggo Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2016
    608
    532
    0
    Location:
    Folsom, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    What broke was akin to the striker-plate on a regular household door. It is not electrical, and its only job is to provide an edge for the trigger latch to grab when you go to click the plug in place. You don't want the plug getting loose in the socket, so you should give it something to lock onto. The best solution that immediately comes to mind would be to shape a lump of 2-part clay-like epoxy into the appropriate little straight-edge flat plate. It looks like you can press it into the two rectangular holes and also on both sides to keep it in place. Then, just watch and be sure it doesn't sag and that it cures in the proper flat shape that you want. Give it a good 24 hours before you test it. My favorite epoxy is PC-7, but any shapeable epoxy should suffice.
     
  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,673
    38,214
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    In future, keep an old paint brush or whatever with the car, something to brush the crud off. Guessing it absorbs/retains water at the connection, and then it freezes.
     
  4. avprod1

    avprod1 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    5
    2
    0
    Location:
    Wheaton, IL
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    With a name like "Pluggo" I think you know stuff about plugs!!
     
    Mendel Leisk and Pluggo like this.
  5. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,673
    38,214
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I keep thinking of this:

    upload_2019-1-18_17-7-43.png
     
  6. Pluggo

    Pluggo Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2016
    608
    532
    0
    Location:
    Folsom, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Right. Without Sluggo, there'd be no Pluggo. That's me alright.
     
    bisco and Mendel Leisk like this.
  7. 4est

    4est Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    207
    121
    0
    Location:
    Romania
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Excel
    You should be fine without it, and leave it as it is
     
    jerrymildred likes this.
  8. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,491
    14,100
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Agree with @4est. The missing part is to prevent wear, but it's not worn yet, so why spend $520 plus tax to put in a part that won't work any better than what's there now?

    That said, it looks like a simple matter to find a piece of steel banding like they use to strap loads onto pallets, make it into a tab to replace what came off (assuming the original is lost), and epoxy it in place. You could make it good as new for the cost of the adhesive and a little elbow grease.
     
  9. avprod1

    avprod1 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    5
    2
    0
    Location:
    Wheaton, IL
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    No, the plug has nothing to clip tightly to, and the car doesn't recognize it as plugged in.
     
  10. avprod1

    avprod1 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    5
    2
    0
    Location:
    Wheaton, IL
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Jerry, it took quite a bit of force to get the plug to engage; often my wife would come ask me to do it as she couldn't.. I see some of you have removed the hardened red "O" ring. Should I try that?
     
  11. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2018
    6,803
    6,454
    1
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    I'd think this would be a comprehensive claim, but probably under many peoples' deductibles.
     
  12. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,491
    14,100
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I think Toyota removed them in 2013. At least I haven't heard of any '13s or newer with the o-ring. It really serves no purpose and eventually fails anyway. It won't hurt to remove it unless the car goes underwater while plugged in, at which point water in the charging port would not be your biggest problem. ;) I charge mine in the rain a lot. Never had an issue of any kind. But I've never charged it in freezing rain.

    Also, I noticed lots of debris in your picture. Maybe the picture was just bad timing, but I like to keep that area clean since there are close fits and lots of electrons there.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  13. 4est

    4est Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    207
    121
    0
    Location:
    Romania
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Excel
    The plug does not NEED to grip. It just needs to make contact and the micro switch on the plug needs to close
     
    jerrymildred likes this.
  14. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,491
    14,100
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    And there may be crud hidden back there that's keeping the hook from going all the way down and closing the switch.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  15. 4est

    4est Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    207
    121
    0
    Location:
    Romania
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Excel
    You can even hear the switch when it closes
     
    jerrymildred likes this.
  16. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,700
    48,946
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i don't recall ever reading of this before
     
  17. Bill Norton

    Bill Norton Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    1,822
    595
    0
    Location:
    MONW, Ks.
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    I've had to karate chop my J1772 cord handle release button to unplug during freezing rain.
    Then there was so much ice and snow build up the door couldn't latch closed.

    What I'd like is a flexible 'shroud' that is held to the car with a soft surface with flexible magnetic strips in sides.
    This shroud would cover the whole charge port, door and charge handle.

    Any crafty, etsy people out there? :) Wonderful business opportunity !:D

    It would need to be made out of light flexible vinyl or silicone rubber.
    Just a sheet of material with a soft magnetic edge on 3 sides.
    I'd buy one !!!

    This guy has a solution! BMW i3 Charge Port Snow Cover
    But the door and door jam are still going to be iced up.....