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Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by bostonbruins8703, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Check your oil level. ;)


    2013 Toyota Prius V Owners Manual and Warranty - Toyota Owners

    Your manual is a little different than mine, but here's what yours says:

    It is especially important to both
    routinely check your vehicle’s engine oil
    level (once a month) and regularly
    replace the engine oil and oil filter (see
    the Maintenance Log section of this
    booklet to determine how often you
    should change your vehicle’s oil and
    filter). Failure to do so can cause oil
    starvation and or oil gelling, which can
    result in severe damage to your vehicle
    and require costly repairs that are not
    covered by the New Vehicle Limited
    Warranty.


    They bolded it for a reason....


    I mentioned it for 2 reasons:

    1. People don't.
    This is often what separates a 1 owner 200,000 mile car from one of the many Priuses that "suddenly" use an excessive amount of oil.
    Other things help to a varying degree such as the EGR cooler design, sump capacity, piston ring material, and 10,000 mile oil change interval (OCI.)
    The oil level check isn't all that demanding.
    Check semi-occasionally and make sure that the sump level is between the dots.
    Easy Peasy.


    2. The schedule of maintenance has a lot of information, and it contains all of the basics to get your car most of the way through it's manufacturer's life cycle which is about the length of the super titanium extended warranty. There are some other checks that can be done to help you get to the end of the car's economical service life which is probably closer to 15 years or about 250,000 miles.

    Those are different goals, with different winners (OEM or YOU) and require a little different strategery which sometimes includes maintenance like brake fluid replacement, CVT, and EGR maintenance that do NOT appear on the Manufacturers maintenance schedule....but here is the thing:
    FLUSH is something you do with a bathroom appliance, and any mechanic that "suggests" that a service be done that does NOT appear in the maintenance schedule should be viewed with suspicion....and this service requires an explanation.
    Sometimes?
    There is a good reason.
    Many times, there isn't.

    KNOWING which is which is valuable......like saving you from a "maintenance" bill with a comma in it.

    Good luck!!
     
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  2. cnc97

    cnc97 Senior Member

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    That reminds me, I need to check my oil today. :ROFLMAO:
     
  3. bostonbruins8703

    bostonbruins8703 Active Member

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    Oh yeah, lol checking the oil level is something that comes second nature to me. Is usually check towards the middle of the month or so. I know a lot of people really don’t do it.

    As far as what you said about flushing and other required/unrequired maintience, I feel is just a matter of common sense. I’ve been burned badly by shops and mechanics (including well respected dealerships) over the years when I was younger. I feel through experience and simple research can do wonders to avoid difficult unnecessary headaches over car mainitence. Though sometimes it is a gamble to take your car to get service at a reputable dealership. This one Toyota dealership I stayed loyal with for years, got all my work done, car serviced, had an engine rebuilt (through factory recall), given a loaner, free tank of gas, free car wash after each service, free vacuum cleaning, even had a new front bumper put on for free. Then one day they got greedy and tried to pull a fast one on me. To conclude, after years of loyalty, I told them to shove it and never went back. (All this with my previous car)

    So ya it’s a gamble, but I’m thankfully, I have the Prius forum and it’s knowledgeable memebers to go to for anything I’m unsure of. Especially with folks like you.

    Again, thank you very much for your advice.
     
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    Putting one car loan on top of another one is a bad deal. What I would recommend is keeping the V and try to add an additional $100 a month on your car payment effectively making taking it from a seven year loan down to maybe a four year loan. Anytime you owe on something always plan on paying more each month to shorten the loan. I did a 30 year home mortgage and turned it into a 15 year.
    At the rate you are putting miles on the car you will run out of car before you run out of payments. If you can ever get debt free you won't want to be in debt again.
     
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    It was still full. After 3400 miles since I last changed it. :whistle::X3::ROFLMAO:
     
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    I know the feeling of debt free. Uptil 2011, I never had any debt or loans. All the cars I had driven up til that point were 20+ year old clunkers. I dropped $3,000 on a used car that had decent mileages given its age. Bought from my landlords used car lot. Not even two months later, the engine blew. I was out $3,000 and my jerk of landlord wouldn’t do anything for me. I had no choice but to go to the Toyota dealership that was near me and get a car with a real warranty. I was living in a rural area and getting to work was a 40 minute drive away. It was either lose my decent paying job or get myself into a loan with a relieable car. Put $300 down because that’s all I had and drove off the lot the same day with a 2008 Scion XB that had 55 thousand miles on it. Car was $13,000 with a payment of $255 a month. Most relieable car I’ve ever driven til now. Had around $1,500 remaining on my loan before I got my Prius. Despite keeping up with maintience, the started to break and fall apart after 120,000 miles. It was in the shop almost every month due to something needing repair. Finally one repair bill of nearly $2,000 was something I couldn’t afford. I had babied the car and took care of it as best as I could but it just started to become a money pit. So I ended up with my Prius. Ironically I got the car for $13,000 as I did with my Scion. Payments are $262 a month. I hated it so much that I had to get into another 7 year loan. Especially with my Scion nearly being paid off. But life throws you curve balls I guess. I’m 2 years into my current loan, so I have around 5 years to go. You can see my anxiety on if anything goes wrong.

    I bought a house recently, so currently I’m making payments on that so I’ll have that paid off in 20 years.
     
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  7. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    It sounds like you're doing everything right with the station wagon except maybe buying some hand tools and doing some of the service items yourself. The fact that you check your oil and (presumably) tire pressures and you're taking ownership of the ownership thing puts you out waaaaaay ahead of the pack.
    The one thing that I keep hearing from you is a fear of a four figure repair bill, which can be completely eliminated by having a four figure repair fund and knowing when you need to spend that and why.
    It's not as much fun as buying season tickets or a vaca with the tax refund.....but hey....once you have an emergency fund in place you'll be able to treat yourself better in 2020.

    You're driving a 200,000 mile car, easy as heck!
    Probably closer to 250 if you want to drive an old car that long, and until you get the house paid for........which is one helluva lot smarter than buying new cars every few years....especially if you have other silly things to pay for like college and retirement.

    I didn't examine your schedule of maintenance, but you're probably due for plugs, etc at 120,000.
    Develop a strategy for paying for that or even doing it your self....and get advice on this site from multiple people about what should be done and what should not.
    Get a detailed quote from the dealer and run it by some of the more experienced folks in the forum before you schedule the service.
    If nothing else it will let the dealer's service department know that you're looking at the maintenance schedule and that you might be one of the few people that they shouldn't mess around with.

    Good Luck!!
     
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    I couldn't find a low mileage used one in my area at the time. I was leaning towards the V because of my two kids, and the more boxy shape can carry more stuff.