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Video -What's The Minimum Range A PHEV Should Offer?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Marine Ray, May 5, 2019.

  1. Marine Ray

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    I've generally respected these videos hosted by Ms. Gorden-Bloomfield. In this recent 6min50sec one, although the Prime is not mentioned, the Prime clearly meets her criteria for a bonafide PHEV.

     
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    it really depends on user need, it's good to have variety, just like bev's and gassers.

    i'm around 90% ev with 12-15 miles of range, but i'd love to have a heat pump and bigger battery to cover it.
    the trouble with reviewers is that they have no parameters to go by. so they try to give a practical real world results and let buyers decide what works best for them.
     
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    Concur on user need, I'm glad the consumer has choices based on their lifestyle.
     
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    it will be nice if we ever reach a point where the same model has various battery configurations, as tesla is doing, but i realize this is very expensive for manufacturers.
     
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    Honestly, I think the Prius is almost perfect. I could use 5-10 more miles, but i have no problem getting to work and back in the Prime. Sometimes I'd like to stop somewhere on the way home and I can't do that in all electric.
     
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    with a prius, you don't want so much aer that you never use the engine
     
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    Seems incomplete to list an arbitrary distance.

    To me, it makes more sense to combine it with some other factor, for example:

    "15 miles per thousand dollars (sticker price over the price of the ICE version)" or
    "Consistently able to charge 0-100% in 8 hours on L1 plug"
     
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    not following you
     
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    How about theoretical max. With a perfect battery, that's small and light weight, cheap, long life, and can be recharged over night.
    I would say 900 miles. That's more than a person could drive in a day.
     
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    why would you want an engine?(n)
     
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    I would love to have an extra 10 miles.

    Useable miles. not hidden battery reserves
     
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    At the hobby level hv lithium battery chargers start around $50

    I would argue any Hybrid should have at least the option of a battery charger, even if it’s only 5 city miles
     
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    Eliminate platform laws and the cost becomes almost zero.

    This is a legal issue driving cost not a technical one as many European cars offer 6 or more drivetrain options in the same model.

    Only difference there vrs here is one little law, overturn it and much more choice will come to the market overnight.
     
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    On those cross country trips where there is no charger.
     
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