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troubles converting 2009 Prius to LED headlights...ideas?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Jim Caldwell, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Jim Caldwell

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    I believe the bulbs in this Prius were the plain halogen type. They were very dim! But at least aimed right. So I thought I would upgrade to LED. I put these in, and they work, but now the aim is completely wrong. both headlights are aimed so far up that there is no light on the road ahead. How could they be so far off? Now I did take both headlight housing assemblies loose so that I could eqasily access the bulbs. . I had to take the radiator skirt loose at top of bumper molding, to remove bottom bolt. Then I was able to pull up both the assemblies until they were almost entirely out of car. Since I did this, I see now that I probably could have--- at least on the right headlamp replacement--- just taken some sort of outside air intake out, then you have easy access to the bulb with housing assy in place. When I reinstalled both headlamp housing assemblies, I did get them positioned as they were originally. There is a bolt at top/ back and that bolt a little bit under the fender skirt....they are both tightened down and both assemblies seem to be as they are from factory. I didn't add washers or anything that could throw off the aim. So I put two boards in front of headlights and started turning the adjusters clockwise as you look at the headlight housings from the rear. I turn both of them many turns, but the aim did not change! How to get them aimed right?
    There is another problem, to address.. .. when I switch to high beams, the LH headlight does get much brighter, but the RH side bulb gets dimmer than normal. I can't see this being the bulb, could it? If its the cars' electronic system itself doing this, then there is NOTHING I can do about it, it seems. The car needs inspection done in a few weeks, I know if the aim is too far off they will flunk it, but if it still has this problem with the brights, will that cause the car to fail also? Its really hard to work on the aiming problem as I wont be able to work on it during the night until the next weekend. Will a piece of plywood right in front of each headlight work for adjusting purposes?
     
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    This article doesn't have anything specific to the Prius- it's more about how to set up a measurement system.

    The general idea is that you want to park on level ground 25' from a vertical wall. You mark where your beams fall with some bits of tape on the wall, measure the height and then start rolling the adjuster screws until it is correct.

    So you need flat ground with a wall in front of it, a 25' tape measure and a roll of tape- preferably something that contrasts with the wall's color.

    I'm not sure what's up with your high beams, but I have a few ideas. Best to start with a meter, check the power actually being delivered to the headlight connectors.

    Regarding the actual adjustments- Doublecheck that you are actually turning the adjusters. Sometimes there are other screws on there that look like adjusters but are really mounting screws.

    You might also verify that the LEDs are properly seated in the lamp housings. It is possible to engage the lock bails with a bulb slightly out of position. If you've inadvertently locked them in the wrong position then there's no amount of adjusting that will put the beam in the right place. Millimeters count. (This assumes that the LEDs were actually manufactured with the correct focal dimensions- I've seen some that weren't even close.)
     
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    OK....thats probably what is wrong. I didn't seat either of the bulbs in correctly perhaps. As for the RH high beam problem, I disconnected the LH bulb that was working correctly, started car and turned on the RH light high and low, and it was working properly for high beam also. Then I reconnected the LH bulb, and now both high beam work fine! Go figure! But there is no doubt I am turning the correct adjuster. There is only one... just below the opening for the bulb and its a little hex head with a wider part that looks like a coke bottle cap the way it is serrated.
     
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    Does your model have automatic adjustment? (I know my 2004 with HID headlights does.) If so, then there is probably a specific control sequence "chicken dance" to go through to reset the aiming system. Details should be in a service manual.


    -Graeme-
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    Auto-adjust is a regulatory requirement for HID lighting, so that's why it's on your car. However nearly every car with halogen lighting skips that extra expense.
     
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    You probably have the bulbs seated crooked. It is very important to have them aligned and seated just right. Line up the three prongs and make sure they are square.
     
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    I did that once with a headlight on my Civic. Light was shining in the trees.
     
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    The automotive headlight assembly is an ENGINEERED piece of equipment! The housing takes into account the characteristics of the light from the halogen bulb, the heat characteristics (so the housing doesn't melt), and how to best project the light (distance and width) from the car. All of this has resulted in the halogen headlight assembly on your Prius, that is optimized ONLY for a halogen bulb.

    The automotive headlight assembly is not a lamp at home where you can screw in any type of bulb: incandescent, CFL, LED, and achieve good results.

    Thus your problems. The halogen assembly was NEVER designed to accommodate an LED bulb and project the light correctly. This would require a new ENGINEERED headlight assembly factoring the characteristics of the LED light source to project the LED light a certain distance and width from the car.

    Now you can "upgrade" the halogen bulb to a "brighter" bulb. BUT, such a bulb lives a shorter life b/c it burns HOTTER to achieve the brightness. As you know, its a PITA to change out the Prius headlight bulb. Stick with the stock halogen bulb for longevity, otherwise you are willing accepting more frequent bulb changes with a "brighter" halogen bulb.

    Go back to Halogen and all will be well.
     
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    And this is the exact reason idiots with LED headlights blind you. I wish the police would give out tickets or at least fix it tickets to people with super bright headlights
     
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    Add to that: one working headlight and tail/brake/turn lights not working.

    My pet peeve are people who apply the "black out" covers onto their headlights and tail lights! Instant removal or impound. Sometimes you can't tell the car has applied the brakes. Only surrounding traffic provides this clue as you can see everyone else braking.
     
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    But it looks fully hectic (super cool) though.