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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Marine Ray, Jun 16, 2019.

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    Interesting how it ignores the time factor. If it takes a person 20 years to drive their car 200k, a hybrid is a very poor choice.
     
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    I just looked at the "maintenance" requirement(s) for the Teslas. Car Maintenance | Tesla
    NICE!!! Pretty much no maintenance, in terms of no brainer of what is required.
    Rotate tires for longevity - check; same as gas and hybrid cars
    Clean/lube brake calpier pins (check pads/rotors too) - check; same as gas and hybrid cars
    Brake Fluid - check; same as gas and hybrid cars
    AirCon - thats different; replace the desiccant every so often​

    A lot of common sense stuff; but common sense seems to be less common now a days.
     
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    better think again ;)
    both honda insight & toyota prius came to the US in the 1990's - so that makes the Prius around 22 years old.

    History of the Toyota Prius - Toyota
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    i thought prius started in japan in 1997, and didn't hit our shores until 2001 my.
     
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    Yes - Japan was a couple years earlier but talking here in the U.S. - it's hard to put a couple hundred thousand miles on a car when your entire country is shorter than some of the counties here in the US.

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    In the 9 years of owning my 2006 Scion XB, I put on it 163,000 miles. Only thing replaced was the battery and brakes. Even had the original A/C refrigerant still in the system.
     
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    What? - you don't think that Toyota's land barge, the Sequoia - (5.7L V8, 9mpg city) making the top of the list is significant?
    Yeah you're right. It discounts the folks that simply want another car because Styles have changed. It discounts cars that don’t make the list - because owners don't sell it .... maybe it's sitting in a backyard rusting out - no longer running. Maybe it's on the farmers' south 40 because he thinks he'll sell it someday .... or the list doesn't necessarily account for families that just donate cars to a family member without changing registration .... or it's a car that was stolen & parted out .... or even if it follows the article's narrow criteria, it doesn't say that the owner didn't have to spend thousands in maintenance to get it that far - much less how many thousands extra they paid in gas - turning on market trends.
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    Well, with my average of 12K miles/year, that would be 16.6 years. Unfortunately, no car I have owned survived past 15 years due to rust related problems. PRIUS and any other Toyota, in fact any brand, make, or model of vehicle is immune to the rust.
     
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    My 1st Prius had 197,000 when it was totaled, so it brings the number of 200,000 milers down. Our two C's each had less than 100,000 when they were totaled, so 2 more downer numbers that would have been in that range soon. I'm sorry guys, other people on the roads just don't want me to keep a car very long.
     
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    Huh? Wouldn't the age as a factor make it better? A car lasting 20 years and 200k is more impressive than a 10 year old one that hit 200k.
     
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    Yes, that's true. But hybrid batteries seem to fail somewhere around the 13-16 year old mark, regardless of mileage. That $2500-3000 hit to get the last 4-7 of those 20 years makes a hybrid less of a value play.

    Assume a Corolla gets 33mpg and a Prius gets 50. Over 200k miles, you'll spend an extra $5k on gas. Okay $5k minus $3k for a battery eats into the savings, but there's still $2k left over. Until you figure that a Prius costs ~$5k more than a Corolla in the first place.The Corolla isn't going to need a new HV battery at the 150k/15 year mark, where the Prius will. A Prius only plays out well if you can put 200k miles on the original battery.
     
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    Sadly, this was my experience with my previous car (a Honda civic hybrid). Original hybrid battery coded out at 11 years and the cheap refurbished one I replaced it with died at 15 years. Car hadn't even hit 100K when I decided to call it quits at the second dead battery.

    While mileage might be a good measure of wear on mechanical parts, it appears time is a better measure of wear on the battery.
     
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    13-16 years ago, battery chemistry was nickel metal hydride. Similarly, traction pack thermal management was in its infancy.
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