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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I didn't like the quality of my first report so I repeated it using iPhone, 'TIME-LAPSE' to record the session:

    • YouTube controls
      • SPACE - Start/Stop
      • "." - Forward one frame
      • "," - Back one frame
    • Standard Range Plus Model 3, V19.16.2
      • climate control was off
    • 20 mi indicated battery range at start
    • 237 mi stopped recording data in spreadsheet
      • frame numbers to reconstruct true time
      • kW rate
      • mi/hr rate
      • battery mi
      • cost
      • first and last frame times
    Here is the battery range in miles during the session:
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    One goal is resolving the optimum charge session for cost and speed, the green dashed rectangular box:
    • too short duration - the ramp up slows getting back on the road. It is cheapest BUT a slower trip end-to-end speed.
    • too long duration - the battery taper slows getting back on the road. It is also more expensive while giving a slower trip end-to-end speed.
    Adding the charge and travel time at 65 mph with the distance covered gives a curve showing the optimum, battery charge:
    [​IMG]
    What this means is attempts to charge to the vehicle maximum range is both expensive and causes the trip to take longer. It is slightly faster and cheaper to go shorter distance, SuperCharger-to-SuperCharge when in SuperCharger mode. This does not apply on the first trip of the day leaving with the car at maximum charge.

    This busy chart combines the costs and battery mi level with the X-axis, charge rate:
    [​IMG]
    • $0.025/mi = $2.50/100 mi - optimum route, expected cost. With gas at $2.50/gal, in effect, 100 MPG equivalent.
    • longer distance legs will give a slower trip time and higher cost but if you have to reach a SuperCharger, there is only one alternative . . . slower speed than 65 mph. But it will be faster than stopped or using an L1 or L2 charger.
    On long range trips that require multiple SuperCharger sessions, there may be more than one route. Choose the route with the closest SuperChargers and do multiple, short charges. Avoid routes that have a lot of maximum range segments.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Bob, you've laid out well - exactly what the Model 3 cannon-ball'ers knew, when they broke the Model S record going from coast to coast.
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Source: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record of 50 Hours, 16 Minutes - The Drive

    Total time: 50 hours, 16 minutes, 32 seconds
    Total mileage: 2860 miles
    Charging cost: $100.95​

    So:
    • 56.90 mph ~= 2860.7 mi / 50.276 hr
    • $0.0353 / mile ~= $100.95 / 2860.7 mi
    Hummmm, AutoPilot and I might come close to matching their record. I'll have to model it. My Standard Range Plus Model 3 is about 150 lbs lighter but they could have had a higher, peak charge rate, ~120-150 kW and I know how to drive the weather. Tape the joints, air up the tires, optimize the schedule, and it might be close.

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    I got shotgun

     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Preliminary data suggests this approach works.

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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Back of envelope:
    • 786.8 miles
    • 15:11 (15.2 hrs)
    • $24.92 SuperCharger
      • $5.50 home charge
      • Free at Red Roof Inn
    My model does not include the distance and slower speeds between the Interstate and urban streets to SuperChargers. It also does not include the traffic backups. However the GPS data should give me a basis of estimate.

    With gas at $2.50/gal, ~78.7 mpg SuperCharger fees for this trip. Home charge is offset by free Red Roof charge. More details to follow when I get home.

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    Thank you Bob Wilson (the PriusChat king of "busy charts"), for your analyis, even though I must think a bit to comprehend.

    Whether by design or by fortune, Tesla's Supercharger strategy seems to harmonize well with my long trip biorhyhthm. I occasionally compare my long trip driving/rest pattern to the ABRP simulation. For safety reasons, I make rest stops before I get tired, and my human factor correlates with the techhnical factor of the Supercharger metrics. Your analysis provides me with additional insight.

    (Currently my optimum transition point from Prius to Model 3 lies about one year in the future. I can hardly wait, but my wife truely loves our trusty 2007 460kkm Prius.)
     
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    The return trip and graph. I made one mistake of using the built-in, Tesla trip planner which insisted on one long segment near the limit of range:
    date location T1 =<60kW $T1 T2 > 60kW $T2 mi to next hours to next mph T2% cost
    1 06/21 14:00 Munro $0.00 $0.00 96 1.9 50.1 0% $0.00
    2 06/21 15:55 Maurnee 16 $2.24 13 $3.51 143 2.6 54.6 45% $5.75
    3 06/21 18:32 Dayton 29 $4.06 15 $4.20 164 4.7 34.9 34% $8.26
    4 06/21 23:14 Louisville 3 $0.45 14 $4.02 114 1.6 72.0 82% $4.47
    5 06/22 00:49 Bowling Green 14 $1.96 14 $3.92 79 1.7 46.9 50% $5.88
    6 06/22 02:30 Brentwood 6 $0.90 7 $2.03 102 2.0 51.0 54% $2.93
    7 06/22 04:30 Home 365 $4.48 $0.00 0.0 0.0 0% $4.48

    • maximize T2 (>60kW) for fastest speed and lowest cost
    • Tesla trip planner tries to maximize charge which is the worst for speed and cost
    This chart shows what happened on each leg of my return:
    [​IMG]

    Sometimes to reach the next charger, you'll have to use the more expensive, slower, Tier 1 rate, less than 60 kW. However, it may make sense to reduce the cruising speed to achieve a greater block-to-block speed and reduced cost. Stay tuned for this analysis.

    Also, it is important to arrive at the next charger with the lowest possible SOC. A good technique is to speed up if there is excess range near the end, the last 1/3-1/4th distance, or slow down if too little.

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    That was done about a year and a half ago in very cold weather well before V2 Superchargers were boosted. I can imagine a summer run with current Supercharging would handily beat that record. Then V3 Supercharging will beat even that.
     
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    I've been modeling it using my SR+M3 and it remains a very competitive time. One reason for a West-to-East trip in November is the beginning of the high wind season in California. They wanted the extra boost to get over the Rockies. It is a route favorable to a tail wind. To preserve every Watt, they drove without cabin heat and near as I can tell, no seat heating too.

    I've got a speculative route, East-to-West, the original Cannonball direction with optimized charger stations.

    My thinking is use the Thanksgiving or Christmas holidays to do a practice drive East-to-West; rest up in California, and; a return for record drive West-to-East. Advertise for a second driver in the East coast, engineering schools:
    1. Pass a math test based upon my SR+M3 metrics.
    2. Lighter weight to minimize rolling drag.
    3. Family or friends to stay with in California before the return trip.
    4. No pay but expenses on the trip.
    During the trip, the back of the Tesla will be equipped as a sleeper. There will also be a cooler for beverages and 'finger food' and a hot-water thermos and electric heater used during the taper charge segments. There will also be a camper, port-a-potty for emergency, road side service. Both of us will have carry-on with spare clothes, toiletries, snacks, and electronics.

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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Wow! Will be great to have a time for the SR+ out there! Excited to learn and hear more about this progress!