Berkeley, CA becoming first city in U.S. to ban natural gas in new buildings

If somebody wants to go net zero, nothing is stopping them. My opinion - this doesn't need to be mandated.

 

The site was set for D.C area, but the selection didn't change much when I switched to here. I see the smaller cook tops are close in price, but in my experience, kitchens with less than 30in of cook top space have had ranges.

I shouldn't have used old fashioned. I was comparing induction to radiant electrics. The 30in induction cook tops aren't much more than them, but I was just looking at the 36in and those have noticable price difference.

To take advantage of the closer priced cook tops, I'd just need to spend thousands to remodel out the range.

It is the place to push them, but banning NG in new construction if it is already in decline there isn't really proactive pushing.

 

It wasn't too many years back you couldn't ever find one under $2,000.
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Honestly, natural gas should be banned from households of its explosiveness. For example, this bus in Sweden:

If you've ever seen the aftermath of a natural gas explosion in a building, it literally looks like a bomb went off. IMO, the convenience of gas heating/drying/cooking is outweighed by sleeping on a potential bomb.

 

That's a stretch. Homes never burn up due to electrical faults, so that is clearly safer? We should probably ban Christmas trees as well since those are also lethal death traps.


NFPA report - Home Structure Fires

 

Last time I checked, electrical fires don't launch your roof 50 feet into the air like this:

Just to emphasize the point, here are some other fun "benefits" of natural gas:

 

The probability of this occurrence is so low I won't worry about it. When airplanes crash into homes that is also catastrophic and I don't worry about that either. Same for tornadoes and large meteors.

 

My son and his wife are remodeling an older home in Pasadena. The only appliance they are keeping is an induction cook top. It works great.

 

Well, the 36in selection on the Home Depot site has gone from 11 to 17, but one of those units you listed doesn't show up for my area.

Ans I suspect the West Coast is getting all the selection. An induction cook top probably isn't in the store here. Some small appliances, like portable single burners, are starting to show up.

I'll consider them, and have have. Two years ago, an induction rice cooker was around $100 more, an increase of a third over the resistant element one we ended up with. It was through Amazon, so regional weirdness shouldn't be an issue.