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5226 miles on a tank of gas

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by NewHybridOwner, Oct 4, 2019.

  1. NewHybridOwner

    NewHybridOwner Active Member

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  2. Ferls80

    Ferls80 Performing some hypermiling techniques.

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    It's quite common here in Europe (especially in North Italy and Germany) to upgrade gasoline cars with CNG. It's a different fuel. It's not a miracle.
     
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    Isn't LPG more popular here in Europe as a conversion compared to CNG? LPG is an easier conversion and more widespread.
     
  4. Ferls80

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    For sure LPG is more common than CNG.
    In any case, gasoline, LPG and CNG don't come from heaven and none of them come for free. In my house I have a gasoline Prius, an LPG Panda, a CNG Mii.
    The cheapest (by far) is the CNG powered Mii, mostly due to CNG tax reduction...
     
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    5226 miles on a tank is not impressive if you have an extra large tank, or in this consideration, have another tank with an alternative fuel that you don't count at all. What a clickbait title on that article.
     
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    Well, he really didn't get 5000+ miles on GAS.
    Actually, the Prius, or any other hybrid, doesn't get true MPG on gasoline alone.
    They get an assist from the battery.
     
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    some say the battery doesn't provide any power except that which was provided by the gas
     
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    That would suggest that the regenerative braking doesn't recover any energy.
     
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    No, but it only recovers a small fraction of energy originally provided by the engine.
     
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    regen braking prevents energy from being lost. it does not, in itself, have energy like gasoline.

    that would be like saying: i put LRR tires on my gasser, but the increased mpg didn't really get me more miles per tank
     
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    Yep--in the end, if you aren't plugging your Prius into an outlet (or filling an added tank with CNG...), all the energy the car uses comes from the fuel you put in it: gasoline. The regenerative braking and battery only capture energy that was provided by gasoline in the first place. Conventional cars waste that energy by transforming it into heat through the friction of the brakes.
     
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    Hmmm....... guess that is if you rely on the traction battery only being recharged by the engine. My 2006 Prius has a 10kWh battery in the spare tyre well and it certainly provides plenty of power without the gasoline engine running at all. I recharge it each day with the solar on my 7mtr motorhome that is sitting in the workshop yard at the moment so the solar would be wasted otherwise.
    I'm at 1400km at the moment, 2.4ltr/100km showing on the power meter and still have 3 segments on the fuel gauge. I run the air con every time I'm in the car, it is around 40*C over here in the Murray riverlands in South Australia at the moment, thankfully the air con compressor is battery powered as well :)

    T1 Terry
     
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    correct, mine is the same, minus the solar. but this is a gen2 forum, unmodified
     
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    Must be an unwritten rule about the unmodified part, but I'll take my punishment like a cowering wimp :lol:

    T1 Terry
     
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    Now have just over 1,500km and it has dropped to 2.3ltr/100km ... I wonder if it will start to make fuel and the fuel gauge will go up once we get all the way back below 1ltr/100km :lol: