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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Ronald Doles, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I've seen trucks with utility bodies that had an air compressor and tank bolted on, so i don't think this is a factory or dealer add on.

    The mild and full hybrid Chevies might have been able to do 220V. I remember a generator function touted for the mild one.
     
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    My guess is that Tesla will sell every one they make whether that is 5,000, 50,000 or 500,000 / yr. Used Tesla's still command top dollar so resale should be great.
     
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    Thank you both!
    In all the searching I have done so far, all the references to Trucks with 220V plugs point only to trucks with 110V outlets. The only trucks I found with 220V outlets had been modified.

    If the capabilities of the Cybertruck set it apart from other trucks, I think it will do fine. If not, it will be a small niche market imo.
     
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    Do a search for "service trucks". It's kind of like looking for trucks with tow-truck or roll-back equipment - they don't come directly from the manufacturers but many other companies buy frames and engines and create their own "service trucks" with any features you want - generators, compressors, cranes, manlifts, whatever.
     
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    Yeah but it's Tesla; 50/50 they'll spend $11B fulfilling those orders.
     
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    It holds a quad with room to spare on both sides and quads can be 50" wide, so we're talking full size pick up truck bed here...
     
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    The old Tesla was like that because they had to build out all their infrastructure and factories almost from scratch which costs big money... But the new Tesla is now on track to fullfilling all orders and just posted $143 Million Q3 profit, has $5 Billion in cash and new factories In Europe, Asia and China are already funded and coming online a year before the cyber truck takeover... All the people who say it's going to limited production are totally clueless as to how rapidly Tesla is scaling up production of all vehicles over the next 5 years.
     
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    A while ago I came to a somewhat similar conclusion: The pure BEV configuration is unlikely to become humankind's "only" type of automotive propulsion. To extrapolate the trends I am seeing, pretty soon there may be a way to routinely equip the vehicles that operate in emergency situations and/or away from civilization with non-H2 fuel cell range extenders.
     
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    Situation and resultant lawsuit both easily foreseeable.
     
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    No amount of scalability will overcome the issue of losing money on every unit. You can't make up losses with volume.
     
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    I think it would look a lot better if there was a bit of an angle to separate the hood from windshield.
    Those very rarely are bought for use as a personal vehicle, and l suspect they exceed the posted price of the Cyber truck.

    Easily foreseeable that a crash resulting in fore can jam the doors, and several cars, non-Teslas, including the Prius/Prime, have laminated side glass, making smashing them a non-solution.

    Which Teslas are losing money per unit?
     
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    A TSLA stock holder, I read the quarterly financials. Near as I can tell, they are still making an operational profit on every sale:
    SEC Filing | Tesla, Inc.

    There are an abundance of details that indicate Tesla understands their challenges. I'm pleased to see they continue to refine processes to reduce production costs. The net effect, Tesla posted a Q3 2019 profit per share of $0.78 diluted and $0.80 basic. By no means a complete list:
    • Gigafactory 3 is ahead of schedule and allows Fremont/Gigafactory 1 to avoid running Asian specific models on the production lines. They will still have to handle EU vs USA model batches but elimination of the Asian models is a big productivity savings.
    • Some restructuring costs won't be there in Q4.
    There are risks but it appears Tesla is aware and handling them. Although revenue from Model Y and Cybertruck won't show up for about a year but these are expanding their product lines and market penetration. There are impressive performance trims coming to Model S that are not wasting 'eye candy' costs.

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    Incredibly uneducated statement... Amazon built their biggest in the world product selling empire by convincing investors that scalability was more important than profitability over time... Now he's the richest person in the world and I never buy from them because of that.

    Basic reality of how business functions on a planet of many, many billions of consumers is clearly something you don't understand.

    "For a sense of scale, it took Amazon more than 14 years—58 quarters after its May 1997 initial public offering—to make, cumulatively, as much profit as it produced in the latest quarter alone." It took Amazon (AMZN) 14 years to make as much net profit as it did in the fourth quarter of 2017 — Quartz
     
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    I think Tesla is the only EV manufacturer who actually makes money on each unit sold, and economies of scale is one of the big reasons; the other big one is that their products are briskly sold at the asking price - even without the federal incentives. The losses have to do with a very large (vs. the revenue) investment into R&D and into expanding their production capability.

    That said, the risks are high and there is no guarantee that Tesla's success will continue forever. If it were to commit too many hard-to-fix, expensive errors tomorrow, it may fail the day after tomorrow. But what's important, as far as I can see, Tesla has already become a constituent part of the economy of the future.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    That says much.
    I trust very little of what the federally mandated "sunshine grams" have to say about a company, but Bob has skin in the game and he's a numbers guy.
    If Tesla were losing a buck a unit and trying to make up for it through volume He's probably say so.

    Of course he also throws money at LOST causes, but that's outside the scope of the adult section (ish) of this forum. :p

    That's the only thing that's bothering me.
    Well....not the ONLY thing....

    Big T only has so much bandwidth and the Y is still a napkin drawing...AND there's still remaining downstream liability burdens with the S and 3. Remember....Yota had to write a check with NINE zeros in it because they screwed the pooch on a nonexistent problem with their G3 Priuses something like 4 years after this model released.
    Tesla seems to be fully capable of mishandling a crisis like that - especially with their DJT inspired public relations approach to those who would DARE to offer criticisms.

    I would have put the Y on the street before I wasted production bucks on some thumb-in-the-eyeball ugly road warrior truck....BUT Elon runs two groundbreaking companies, while I fix phones for a living.

    Still...
    The Bigs (Yota, GM, FoMoCo) aren't gonna stay dumb forever.
     
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    actually, thats not an impossibility. and even as they broaden the market, it is probably a plus for tesla.

    for one, it's confirmation that they were right all along.

    and two, it creates more awareness and charging options.

    thirdly, they'll likely have the most advanced tech for quite awhile. from what i've read, most competitive engineers are baffled when they try to reverse engineer tesla battery management
     
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    The first Model Y high trim versions are expected to hit the streets around this time next year, probably at least a year ahead of Cybertruck production.
     
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    I don't know which models are losing money/showing a profit per unit. Tesla is over 10 years old and has yet to have a profitable year. To me that equates to losses. By my lightly researched count, Tesla has sold about 410,000 vehicles over its lifetime and lost nearly $6 billion. That's a lot of money per car sold.
     
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    "work of genious" "Iconic" Jack Ricard
    EVTV on Tesla Cybertruck Unveil Wardrobe Malfunction
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    3:35 put the tesla drive in that red pickup and i'll take one (y)