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Certified rebuilt engines?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by NewHybridOwner, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. NewHybridOwner

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    Just out of curiosity...

    A guy told me this morning about having blown up his Subaru's engine -- cooling hose failure, and the idiot light only flashed and didn't stay on -- and having got a Subaru-certified replacement.

    Does Toyota do certified replacement engines as well?
     
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    Note to Prius people - "idiot light only flashed" - general instrument panel concepts - orange is a warning, red is a failure, flashing (almost any color other than a green turn signal) means stop right away before something gets destroyed. Not always universally true; of course there are always exceptions. But if you see a flashing light, don't figure that it would stay on solid if it really were something to worry about.

    Or, if that's too complicated ...

    Flashing is bad. It is supposed to get your attention. That's why it flashes.
     
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    I assumed that he meant that it blinked only once.
     
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    i have never heard of one, maybe a dealer short block or something?
     
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    Short blocks are a thing, under 2K, and it's everything below the head gasket, and brand-new, if I'm not mistaken? Maybe you have to transfer over the dipstick tube, water pump, and oil filter bracket bits?

    Then you could have the head rebuilt by a machine shop, for what, $300~500? (Maybe @The Critic can comment on that).

    And get a gasket rebuild kit and new head bolts, maybe $300?

    Short Block - Toyota (11400-37140) | Toyota Parts
     
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    I think it was in fact a short block that he got, from a vehicle that had done only 65K miles vs. the 177K his had done.

    He told me that he got off the freeway as soon as he could, but...
     
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    For 3k or less he can get a complete engine using Jasper Engine's and Transmissions. They provide a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty on complete engines. Jasper only works through a dealer network however and does not sell to the general public. We've used them a few times. Well more than a few but that's on the GM side. Only a few on the Toyota side.

    Remanufactured engines, transmissions and differentials | JASPER Engines
     
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    To answer this original question: Toyota sells new engines, short blocks, and parts, but as far as I know, they don’t sell used or remanufactured engines or certify third-party suppliers of them. Toyota does sell other remanufactured parts, however, and of course, Toyota dealers may offer rebuilt engines from other sources.
     
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    That sounds about right.
     
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    I just purchased a remanufactured engine through Toyota and had them install. This was less than 2 weeks ago. I live in the general area around Salt Lake City Utah. Anyways, work performed was install new reman engine. Up and down stream o2 sensors. I purchased a magna flow cat and did that myself. Toyota free of charge gave me a new water pump by the old started to “weep” aka super slow leak, also free of charge thermostat and gaskets for both. All for free like I said. Total cost of reman engine and install was just under $3,400 through TOYOTA. Can’t beat that! Saves me 30k on a new car.

    And I have a lifetime unlimited mile warranty on hybrid battery through green bean battery, threw a cell on the way out from CA so they came out and replaced the hybrid battery for free. Original cost for battery through them with their lifetime unlimited mile warranty was around $1500 I believe.

    All in all happy with my purchase.

    Before was consuming lots of oil. Ruined my cat. And by lots I mean 3ish qrts from CA to Utah. Toyota said that’s normal wear and tear . Reman engine has upgraded and bearings pistons and rings. Supposed to be made of more durable material. Not sure what so don’t ask.
     
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    A big part of the upgrade (hopefully) would be the 2015 model year pistons/rings. (y)
     
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    Your profile says 2008, a Gen 2. Is that the one that got the engine?
     
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    Yes. New engine cat and o2 sensors. Hybrid battery was under warranty. The reman engine also has upgraded pistons rings and bearings. Shouldn’t have the same issue in the future. Cost was under $3400 I want to say
     
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    Ok strike my post 11 comment, diff gen. :)
     
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    Did you happen to get a bill of work that gave any information about that engine, like a source or a part number?

    Elektroingenieur mentioned that

    and in the past I've found it very hit-or-miss what parts are available that way. What I have seen with Toyota reman parts is that they have a part number like the new part but with -84 tacked on at the end, and sometimes it is worthwhile just to do a Google search for that to see if a particular part comes up that way. Of course they could probably decide any day that the magic reman suffix is now -77 or -123 instead of -84, but -84 has been what I've seen so far.
     
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    Only number I’m seeing is an 851. I forget who they said they go through. I’ll reach out them and try to get back to you.
     

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    Thanks for sharing a copy of the repair order; it’s helpful for other readers to see the actual costs.

    Since the replacement engine isn’t listed with a ten-, twelve-, or thirteen-digit part number, like those given for the gaskets, spark plugs, coolant, etc., it almost certainly didn’t come from the Toyota parts distribution system. “851” is the identifying code for the technician who did the work. “CP” usually means “customer pay,” i.e., work for which there won’t be a warranty claim to Toyota or a charge to an internal department at the dealer.
     
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    Now I find myself wondering what a -83 suffix means.
     
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    I believe it’s one way Toyota Motor North America indicates locally-sourced (but new, not remanufactured) parts, such as those made in the U.S. for sale here as substitutes for parts imported from Japan.
     
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