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12v option from harbor freight? Hmmmmmmmm

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Ianmeister, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. Ianmeister

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    Ok. I think the picture speaks for itself. I wonder if there’s a member with non SKS will to try this crazy idea for a 12v battery option.....
     

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    Terminal posts?
     
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    They are square with threaded holes unlike OEM which are round posts. So some assembly is required.
     
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    …isn't there something about vents/tubes too? Good price, but (as they say) the devil is in the details! ;)
     
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    Yeah you’re right this one is sealed. Well, it was an idea. Not necessarily a good idea, but an idea nevertheless.
     
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    box does say valve regulated, so not sure if you can tap into that for vent tube?

    dimensions?
     
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    7 1/4 high x 8 long x 5 1/8
     
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    thunderbolt solar 12 volt 35 amp hour universal battery

    ^ Search string if anybody wants it. Checking the harbor freight info:

    12 Volt, 35 Amp Hour Sealed Lead Acid Battery

    against my third gen battery measurements:

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    OEM battery info (measurements taken directly):
    Battery id: S46B24R GS YUASA
    length: 9 3/8" (238 mm)
    width: 4 7/8" (124 mm)
    height: 8" (203 mm) (plus posts)
    post dia's:
    Pos: 13 mm (approx)
    Neg: 10 mm (approx
    Weight: 310
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    The thunderbolt varies as follows:

    Length: 8" (minus 1 3/8"
    Width: 5 1/8" (plus 1/4")
    Height: 7 1/4" (minus 3/4")

    It might work, with a 3/4" shim under. Except for the vastly different posts. That would be a deal breaker for me. I think too 35 amp hours is less, the OEM is 38 amp hours?
     
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    Isn’t there a kit to allow square posts to convert to round? Or did my brain make that up......
     
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    lol, might have been your post that made my mind think that one too.

    I think @Mendel Leisk had some posts on that recently, but it may have been convert from american to jdm or something?
     
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    My brain invents all kinds of crap that didn’t happen.
     
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    It is a "lawn mower" battery.
    Others have used similar ones in a pinch for short terms.
     
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    They have a good return policy and I think the standard 20% coupon could apply on this battery. You could probably make it work. The Gen 2 Prius is in their glory years. One step above a junker. With that I say go for it. When I say Junker it's like a tooling car or a kit car. At the point in its life cycle. You really can experiment a lot with your Prius. If things go sideways you can send it to the boneyard.
     
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    FWIW?

    I don't think it's crazy, but I'd invest some of my savings in a decent jump pack and keep it ready.

    Juuust sayin
     
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    That battery should be fine for an G2 SKS Prius that is driven at least a couple times/week. If you can't figure out how to connect to the terminals, though, this may not be a job for you. The venting is the only thing I'm not 100% sure about.

    FWIW - I was jumping my Prius with a Makita Drill/Driver battery for a while between when my OEM battery STB and when I got a Yellow Top (form that educational guy) with adapter kit. Can't remember if it was a 12V NiMH or 14.4V NiMH though.
     
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    I think my non-SKS is something like 38Ah originally?

    I've been running this similar replacement 55Ah for the last 3-4 years with screw terminals. And no vent tube. But neither has my Volvo's 100Ah battery in the open boot, which is a similar setup and distance from the passengers as my Prius.

    I think I would use the Harborfreight battery without any hesitation if I wasn't a stickler for battery maintenance (the biggest battery will last the longest). Price seems excellent. I can't find what I payed for mine, but it was AT LEAST 100euro (~2euro/Ah), probably 130 (~2.5euro/Ah including all taxes) or so and I searched for a long time before buying to get best value for money. So 2$/Ah seems like a steal as long as the euro is worth more than the $ (at time of writing 1EURO=1.10$) and taxes aren't >25%.

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    Gratuitous pic of them side-by-side
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    tax around here is a hair under 10%
     
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    I found my purchase price (the company has a different name since January 2016 when I ordered it... which is why I couldn't find the order in my computer).
    It equates to 2$ per Ah for the 55Ah (cheaper than I thought, but as said, I found the absolute best price I could find during at least 3 months of (occasional) searching).

    But that was 4 years ago, so this 2.2$ per Ah (incl. all tax) sounds like an excellent deal.
     
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