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Discussion in 'Tesla' started by Lee Jay, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Senior Member

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    spend some time here, if you want to read about rattles, rebooting, poorly fitted body panels, bad paint, brake issues, defective actuators, blah, blah, blah.

    tesla is building great cars, relative to industry standards.

    c/r is a survey of customer complaints, not an engineering analysis.
     
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    And apparently, Tesla has a lot more customer complaints than Lexas or Toyota.

    What most people want out of a vehicle is no hassles. Until Tesla proves they can build a car like that, I'll strike them from the list of potential future cars.
     
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    i think we all know where you stand. the question is, why do you try so hard to persuade everyone else?
     
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    It's good when people make informed buying decisions.

    Some people want unreliable vehicles. There's a huge market for classic cars that need constant maintenance.
     
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    self appiinted Public Service message broadcast.

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    No manufacturer (currently still in business) can really afford to make a product be 100% perfect prior to putting it on the market. It only needs to be "good enough". Once it's on the market, that's when adjustments get made. Otherwise, well, nothing would ever make it to market...........
     
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    i'll have to start a warning thread on the yugo
     
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    You might want to start a fight with Sandy Monroe, he used to agree with you

    Tesla Model 3 teardown expert is exasperated with analysts' inaccurate data
    Police Department's think it's great too
    but keep on trying ...
    Tesla Model 3 gets the nod from police over cost and performance, bye-bye Dodge Charger - Electrek
    there's certain to be others needing to feel good about their auto purchases at another vehicle's inacurate review
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    i can't wait for the fabulous mach-e. what could go wrong? ford is 10 places above tesla on c/r's hit list
     
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    I rarely see TESLAs, but the few I've seen close-up have been shoddy. Panel gaps were worst I've seen for decades. Wheels Magazine - the only print journal in Australia commented a few months ago with comments about "fit and finish" being poor for a car of it's price range.

    And only last week, the same journal said "a clear use of budget materials in the cabin – everything from the upholstery to the steering wheel – as well as the lack of support from the spongey, cheap-feeling front seats ... The low-rent cabin; the rattles and squeaks on rough roads; the apparent lack of sound deadening to quell road noise – all these were deemed not good enough for a car well north of $100K on the road.

    They were comparing it with a range of other cars - $30k Mazda 3, $40k RAV4, $60k BMW and a $150k Merc EQC.
     
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    Mr. Google is the best person to ask about any links ---- and I think you meant anecdotes :)

    I don't know if quality complaints about Tesla model 3 are necessarily by shorts, and even if this is the case, it doesn't look like the shorts are achieving their presumed goal.

    From what I can deduce, based on my private conversation with Tesla owners, build quality doesn't influence the buying decision process or and the level of satisfaction all that much. This phenomenon is not specific to Tesla or to EV's; people, who buy European Wundermobiles do not do it for reliability or optimal TCO either.

    When Tesla truly hits the middle market, which will happen within the next 2 years, quality and such boring things will be a lot more important.
     
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    I think you're confusing the size of the market with the volume of inventory available. Two different things.

    If it makes you feel better, I'll pledge to refrain from buying any Teslas.
     
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    Perhaps because they LISTEN to their customers unlike Toyota US or Lexus. They have even grown "too big" to be seen here any more.

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    I think that was just before they moved.
     
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    What would you say if there was a specific Tesla model that had better reliability than a particular Toyota Model?
     
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    Did you see that one cherry on the 3rd tree over? That thing was mint!

    The people who bought Ferraris and Lambos 30 years ago put up with a lot of iffy quality too. It was beside the point. The public still remembers those cars mostly fondly, and those companies are mostly still in business making cars today. I'm not worried for Tesla's future.

    I've still only had two rides in Teslas, an S and an X. Didn't seem to be anything wrong with the S, but the X had a very obvious problem- the seat I was offered wasn't entirely attached to the car. It wobbled and rattled around like abused playground equipment. One out of two really isn't bad for a niche carmaker.
     
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    Th big thing with Tesla is trying out new technology. An issue that has been noted is the use of lower than automotive grade components. An example is the huge touchscreen. It is laptop grade, vs automotive grade. Can it handle the rigors of the automotive environment? Not exactly. Similar with PCBs, sis-in-law works in the field and said their requirements are less than the other car manufacturers...
     
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    Away from us, for sure. :mad::mad: