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2008 Gen 2 Prius Dead 12v Battery

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Brad Wallace, May 3, 2020.

  1. Brad Wallace

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    Hi. I have a 5 year old 12v battery in a Gen 2 2008 Prius with smart key. The car was driven for 1.75 hrs about two weeks prior. Then driven for about 20 min one week prior. Then the car wouldn't start without a jump start. I drove the car for 5 minutes and then the car was dead 2 days later. It could NOT be jump started (after 15 minutes of being connected to another car with its engine revved to about 2000rpm's).
    I removed the battery and took it to an Autozone. They confirmed the battery was completely dead and it took them 45min to fully charge it and they told me the battery then tested fine.
    Two days later (today) I tested the car and its able to start. I did the dashboard "signal display" test and it reads 12v at rest and 11.2v with the lights on at rest.
    I'm afraid to drive for fear of getting stuck somewhere but I don't want to buy a $200 battery if its not a battery problem or if I can get more use out of it.
    Is this definitely a dying battery? If so, do you think I can get another couple of years out of it if I disable the SKS system when its parked for a week or more without use?
    Thank you.
     
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    tough question to answer over the internet for someone with no tools.

    best i can say is ask them to charge it again, buy a cheap voltmeter, bring the battery home, and bench test it every day for a weak.

    otherwise, i would just get a jump pack in case it dies
     
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    Thank you for your reply. So testing the voltage using "display signal" in the Prius as stated would not be the same as using a voltmeter? I have no idea. Thanks! What am I looking for to know there is a problem? Just dropping voltage level every day?
     
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    Probably ought to have a jump pack anyway. No one is immune from accidentally leaving the dome lights on.
     
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    Thank you for your reply. So testing the voltage using "display signal" in the Prius as stated would not be the same as using a voltmeter? I have no idea. Thanks! What am I looking for to know there is a problem? Just dropping voltage level every day? (sorry, I've written this exact response twice now ...)
     
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    You really need to know three things...

    1) Is there a drain on the 12v battery, seems like this *might be* the case (added stereo, alarm, radar detector, USB charger etc??)
    2) What is the "health" of the 12v? Will it hold a charge overnight when disconnected?
    3) Output voltage of the DC-DC converter? Should be 13.5V minimum while the car is "on" and having a "good" & charged 12v battery.
     
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    thank you for replying.
    1) There should be nothing draining the battery except the smart key system.
    2) After being charged at Autozone, it sat in the car connected and is still able to start the car after 48hrs. Should I disconnect it and see it works after 24hrs?
    3) The Prius Signal Display says 12v while on. I've read that that was normal.
    What do you think?
    Thanks.
     
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    YES.
    Unless you enjoy surprise adventures when your car fails to start at some random place and time...........
    then GET A NEW BATTERY.

    5 years is a pretty good run.
    And sitting idle for long periods is hard on the 12 V battery.
    Going completely DEAD is VERY hard on them.

    If you try to "stretch" this and save a few pennies, circumstances might dictate that it ends up costing you a LOT more in the end.
     
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    Thank you! This whole thing is confusing to me mostly since Autozone said the battery was good.
     
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    I understand, after years of paying well under $100 for a new battery why people balk at paying $200, but when you need it, you need it.
    kris
     
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    when you use the signal, there is a load on the battery. so 12v may or may not be good. it is useful to know the static voltage, as well as the loaded voltage, then track the daily changes.
    a battery in good condition should be able to sit for weeks when disconnected without losing much voltage.

    when connected, prius puts a small draw on the battery, but the daily drop should be very small.
    it's a bit of a guessing game when it gets toward the low end. 12v and 11.2 don't sound awful, but what are those numbers after a week of not driving?
     
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    Thank you. I'll wait a few days (since I'm not using the car much anyway) to see what happens to it.
     
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    That is a VERY good thing!

    Just to clarify, the 12v battery in a Toyota Hybrid does not start the engine, it simply provides initial power to the vehicle's electrical system, after which the DC-DC converter takes over.
     
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    Alas, it is not uncommon to get an inadequate test, even from a shop that should know better.
    IF.....they had repeated the test several times in a row, the result might have been different.
     
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    I don't think it will add much longevity but who can really predict the future anyway?

    For sure though, you will keep the battery in better condition by way of lowering the current draw by disabling the SKS when you know the car will sit for any time undriven for any period of time. The owner's manual advises doing exactly this when leaving the car parked up for any significant time.
     
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