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  1. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

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    Our $39.99 Canon inkjet, despite being dirt cheap have not clogged once. I have used up just one black ink cartilage that came with the printer rated for 180 pages capacity but in reality probably less than 100 pages were actually printed in the past one year. I will see if this "refilled" OEM cartilage continues to work without clogging. When I refilled the cartilage, I noticed that there were still plenty of color ink left in the original cartilage. The color printer is programmed to stop printing as soon any ink is depleted, in my case black.

    My Windows 10 laptop died a few month ago. After purchasing a Chromebook as an alternative to Windows laptop little over a year ago, I was using it less and less anyway. At this point, I think I am going to let it rest permanently. And the switch is complete. I am now completely Chromebook guy at least at home. (I still use Windows desk top at work.) At least with a Chromebook, I don't have the "printer driver" issue I use to have with Windows.
     
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    Could you use Chromebook on a desktop pc?
     
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    If you are talking about Chrome OS based desktop machine, then there are things called Chromebase or Chromebox which is desktop machine with Chrome OS. But as I understand it, it is not 100% same thing as Chromebook OS. If you are asking about installing Chrome OS onto existing desktop PC, then answer is NO. Unlike many of Linux distribution, Chrome OS is propriety and not user installable, AFAIK. You can however install the open-source Chromium OS onto any PC. Chromium OS is very similar to Chrome OS and many parts are developed by the same people who code the official Chrome OS.

    OTOH, if you just want larger screen and separate keyboard with Chromebook, them most newer Chromebook that comes with USB-C can be connected to variety of peripherals including screen, keyboard, mouse and such.
     
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    I fired them about 10 years ago.
     
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    I'd suggest Linux Mint. It's been a while since I used it much, but it feels much like Windows except that it works so much better.
     
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    Zorin is also a pretty good Windows replacement, but they've gotten a bit bloatier in the last year or two.
    The best thing about Linux is that they're Free-Free (meaning they're not Mac "free"...where you have to buy a $1,000 computer to get the "free" OS)
    The SECOND best thing about Linux is that if you load the right flavor it's as fast and lightweight as you want it to be.
    There's 'live discs' that allow you to test fly each OS before you pull the trigger on an install, and many of them can be dual-booted.

    If you don't want to bother with all that?
    yeah.....
    ...go Chrome!

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    Meet The Linux Desktop That’s More Elegant Than Mac And Windows 10
     
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    My favorite Linux distribution was Ubuntu. Most of my earlier Windows laptops were dual bootable to Ubuntu. And I was so excited when they (meaning the developer of Ubuntu, Canonical) announced when they were developing Ubuntu Touch (smart phone OS with very different flavor than iOS or Android back then) some years ago. In the end, the project did not come through, though there is still a small group of people continuing to develop this platform. I wanted 100% seamless convergence of a personal computer and smartphone unlike MAC-iPhone or WindowsPC-Windows Phone. I even tried using a beta version of Ubuntu Touch by burning a custom ROM onto my Nexus phone. The problem is there was no wide support from app developer. Thus come my abandoning the Ubuntu and switching to a Chromebook. I have been using Android phone for many years already. And currently, Chromebook-Android phone offers the best integration of a personal computer and smartphone, IMHO.
     
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    I should make my "job description" thread derailer for a while. :oops:
     
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    Huh. I still use a LaserJet 1200 that I *literally* found in a dumpster over 12 years ago, and HP still sells toner cartridges for it. Although it's moot, because in the 12+ years I've had it, I have yet to change the cartridge!
     
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    Update: After 18 months of service, our $39.99 Canon inkjet printer has been decommissioned. We used up initial ink cartridges (both black and tri-color) and I refilled both with bulk ink once. The printer is still in good condition but refilled ink cartridges clogged and printer monitor was constantly showing low ink despite full of ink. The usage chip in the used cartridges can be overridden fairly easily, but the printer head clog was not fun to deal with.

    Our usual printing needs are so low, no more than a few pages a month mostly, cleaning clogged printer head every time we need to print just a page was not worth my time. But, I just could not justify paying more for new ink cartridges than what I paid for the new printer itself. We could have gone without a printer, but now I am working from home, a reliable printer became much more important. Well, I just replaced it with a brand new Canon All-in-One monochrome Laser Printer. It is quite a bit larger than the inkjet, but this should serve my work-related and the rest of the family's printing needs fine for years to come. Original MSRP on this printer was $595 but I got it on sale for a mere $169 (shipped) from Adorama. The best thing is that an aftermarket high yield toner for this printer is available at as low as $12.

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    thank you, i need to do this as well. just have to find room for the beast
     
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    Well, the laser printer is taller and heavier than the inkjet, but the footprint is not much different, especially when compared to the inkjet with the paper tray open and sticking out.

    We needed an All-in-One printer for we use it more as a scanner and a copier than as a printer. But if all you need is a printer function, you could find a very compact laser printer as small as or even smaller than some inkjet.
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    thanks, i'll look around. currently, we have a portable hp. it's only 14x5x3 and fits in a hidden pullout inside our desk.
    i don't think i'll find a laser small enough to fit in there, but i'll look. it can be somewhat larger, but if too big, we'll need a designated spot. that's some expensive real estate though.
     
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    That must be a printer with a near-vertical paper tray. This HP laser printer has a footprint of 6.30" x 13.60" x 7.50" with a tray closed.
     
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    great price too. how much is a replacement cartridge, that's where the rubber meets the road.
     
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    New OEM toner always costs more ~$50 in Amazon but can be as low as $10 for an aftermarket toner ($27 for 2 pack with $7 coupon applied). In my previous laser printers, aftermarket recycled toner worked fine.
     
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    and toner lasts much longer than inkjet, when rarely used, correct?
     
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    Yeah, I think so. High yield black inkjet cartridge is like ~300 pages compared to ~1000 pages for a laser printer toner. For a laser printer, you do have to replace a drum once in a while too, but usually much less frequently than the toner.
     
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    13 years ago, I found an HP LaserJet 1200 in a dumpster. Right next to it was a spare toner cartridge, new in the HP box.

    13 years later, the printouts are starting to get a bit light. I suppose I'll have to swap in that new cartridge soon - which I anticipate will last at least 13 years, because I print a lot less than I used to. 13 years from now I probably won't be willing to spend the $50+ that a new cartridge costs.

    Compared to inkjet, toner cost is positively infinitesimal.