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Tesla Fires a Shot across the Competition's Bow

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by hill, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

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    I know years ago Georgia was $5,000, and iirc Colorado is still up there somewhere with a decent amount. There's probably a web page somewhere.
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    A practical example from today:

    I did a round trip Huntsville-to-Atlanta to pickup two light-weight rims and better tires:
    • Travel time: 2:00 AM to 10:45 AM
      • 30 minutes to wait and load tires
    • Distance: 370 miles
    • Left with 100% SOC and 232 miles estimated range
    • Arrived with 20% SOC, 46 miles estimated range
    • Recharged to 67%, 24 kWh, $2.64
    • Supercharger costs: $8.58
    • Biology breaks while Supercharging:
      • 21 minutes - bathroom and coffee
      • 22 minutes - breakfast
    So these metrics give:
    1. 370 miles / (8.75 - 0.5) hours = 45 mph (state roads)
    2. $0.023 / mile Supercharger costs
    3. $0.032 / mile Supercharger and home costs
    Leaving the loading dock, I heard the 'tick tick' and stopped right away. There was a metal screw but I removed it before it punctured the tire.
    Tire_200.jpg Tire_210.jpg

    Bob Wilson
     
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  3. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

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    Yeah probably :whistle:.

    But @bisco cited the math, so it'll save you and I from the research:).

    He'll be along eventually to either set us straight or concede (y).
     
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    I'm surprised you didn't have your bio breaks down to the seconds:whistle:.

    Hopefully it wasn't too hot out in your neck of the woods today for the outside 22 minute lunch (y).
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Just using the Supercharger timing which goes down to minutes. One can be too anal.

    Leaving at 2 AM, no AC was needed on the trip over and just a touch on the way back. What I had not planned was the clear sky had radiant cooling so made a few, thin fog patches. There were to brief, biology breaks on the way back ... recycle the coffee and stretch.

    Although we often talk about Tesla competition, he is really after the undersized, mediocre, compliance cars that were so 'popular' in the past. Even Bob Lutz made reference to the difference between those horrible excuses versus the quality cars Tesla brought out. You want to drive a Tesla, the others not so much.

    BTW, we still have our 2014 BMW i3-REx and compared to the 2014 compliance cars, there is no competition. If you make a car someone wants to drive, you'll have a supply, not a demand problem.

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    Now that the model S has a 400-mile range, I can't wait to see what the next psycho does .... Cannonball across the US. Even the existing record will still be a tough record to beat.
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    That range only works for the first segment. Thereafter, it hopping between V3, 250 kW, Superchargers and a heavy foot. Probably works best with one or more Judas cars to scout and handle traffic enforcement.

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    Please tell that to Toyota. I doubt they will believe it, but it is worth a shot.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    More than a few did by trading in our Prius and other Toyota models for a Tesla. We also bought TSLA stock.

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    Last time I checked the Tesla site, it was still putting fuel savings into the final price.
     
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    No need, you were the one who overlooked the GOING TO BE context. They are already preparing for it.
     
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    After a certain age, bio breaks are measured in minutes, not seconds . . . . it's like charging @ 120 V. ;)
     
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    True, I just don’t think they listened;)
     
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    my apologies. i forgot tesla had passed the point of no return with the fed tax break. ma is only $2,500. for a bev.
    i guess that helps explain the high price of used tesla, and why i'm still driving a pip.

    there's no gas savings here, with electrons at 24 cents, and gas at two bucks.
     
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    there are now two buttons. one with gas savings and one without. for an old man like me, it's easy to miss.
     
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    I thought that might have been the case;).

    But still at $2500, that's a decent credit from the state:).

    CA is $1500, so you get a bit more of a bump out there in that regard(y).
     
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    i'm hoping i can afford a used model y for my 70th birthday, if i make it
     
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    That'll be a nice self gift :).

    As long as Mrs. Bisco is on board:love:.

    2 more years to wait:whistle:?

    We should be out of the pandemic by then(y).
     
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    4 1/2. by then, the new low cost model might be out too.
     
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    Buy some stock and you'll make enough to buy it sooner:p.

    I should have bought some, but hindsight is 20-20:cool:.

    I just got an email yesterday from Rivian that the R1T will be rolling off the assembly line next June:).

    That's what I am looking forward to;).

    But definitely not waiting til I'm 70(that's way too far away)(y).
     
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