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Prius for Sale... Unused for Years

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Frontporch, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. fotomoto

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    OK, this statement can be interpreted incorrectly and here's why: a VERY weak HV battery can and will attempt to crank-start the ICE at such a high rpm and for such a long time that it sounds just like the engine is indeed running but it's just attempting to run. I don't know the specific time length the ECU's allow this attempt but it's so long most get fooled by it thinking the car "runs fine". The number of times the car will attempt to start depends on the HV battery SOC and health. For example: even a good HV battery will attempt to start a prius that's out of gas until the battery is completely depleted and will need a special grid charger to bring it back.

    Regardless, this HV battery has a limited time left.

    GOOD LUCK!
     
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    Foto has the best point the hybrid battery will be the first thing that goes if not already has a g fault and has been 12 volt reset which is a classic auction scam.

    The fact of life is for most people anything over 200000 miles is end of life. That’s about 18 years of car ownership with usually very poor maintanence.

    If you have a garage full of tools and very good with electronics with both computer and car 12 volt buss understand ecu’s can buss data high voltage ac compressor and have a clue what high voltage ac 3 phase own a hybrid capable obd understand for the love of god basic 12 volt battery behavior
    And familiar with how complicated the brake system is and not shy about replacing the motor and trans in your driveway and eats oil like crazy and lots of time and money congratulations you can keep a really old beat up little car that rides like a stage coach and leaks like a bad umbrella running forever.

    For the rest of most people who have no clue what a red triangle that pops up on the dash is and you will see that and come on this site before you even open the cars hood and be forced to take it to the dealer for every little thing because your phone won’t fix it and the dealer is $150 an hour and after you wait in there lobby eating there great donuts for 2 hours and watching Star Wars while you worry how much this is going to be the service guy comes to you and tells you things you have no clue what he’s talking about and there really not sure what’s wrong that’s why we need more investigation to see how deep your wallet really is then this this car at 225,000 may not be for you.

    Having said all this in closing congratulations on your new high mileage prius and no we have no idea what that noise is and why that light is blinking.
     
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    challenge accepted
     
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    OK.. the previous reply was meant to be tongue in cheek

    I don't want to come across as a dumbass, but it did make me laugh for some reason.

    I came here for wisdom and the comments above are what I am looking for... and appreciate.

    I like projects, and bringing cheap cars back to life. I would also love to take one over the 300K mark... Never done that. All that said, I also don't want to take on a large time or money sink hole. I would give anything a try besides body work and paint. Just don't have the patience or skills for that. I try to learn as much as I can and really weigh in on the opportunity before I act. I would probably also be ready to cut bait if it looked like I had to dump money into the car... aka new traction battery for an aged car.

    I would consider getting out the voltmeter and try to evaluate whether a pack can be rebuilt... Just another opportunity to learn something new and take advantage of the people who share their knowledge on this site and youtube...etc.
     
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    It doesn't cost anything to go and look at a car for sale. It's actually kind of exciting, but can be a little scary if you are not totally in control of your emotions.;)
     
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    Ed does have a way of expressing himself that makes me smile.
     
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    You could try a shotgun approach at remedying the consumption issue. There are a bunch of post here on PC, none are definitive solutions that I know of, and you can also find additional resources around the web (bitog, etc). Pretty sure I've done a couple of posts regarding such.
    Currently, gen2'ers are waiting for a @Figster10 report on the effectiveness of replacing the valve stem seals, which could be a winner.
     
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    I see what u did there..... ;)
     
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    Actually had it correct the first time, just too many tabs open for my own good :whistle:
     
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    No, what you had was one of the best puns I've seen in a while. :D
     
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    You are the exception to the rule young man!!

    Most buyers don't have that voltmeter to get out.

    I think alot of buyers have heard over the years what a great car it is and what great mileage it gets. This is true was true but now not at 225,000 miles.
     
  12. Frontporch

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    Sad to say but that car sold before I made plans to see it. Not surprised as the lower priced cars seem to go fast.

    I would like to find a gen 3 that needs some love. Maybe that will be the subject of a future post

    Thanks to all of you for all the advice
     
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    Plenty of them out there.

    Start reading all the hybrid battery rebuild posts that will be the biggest hurdle. It’s a very heavy battery like 100 lbs so difficult to wrangle in and out of the car and you will need a strong bench and a place to work on it and some basic test equipment and understanding of basic battery operation especially many in series creating high voltage.
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