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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. Mark57

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    Yeah, questions abound but I don't see answers coming out. Her husband is devastated and everyone around here is in shock. Very unexpected. She had zero medical conditions. She was outside every day working in her amazing designer showcase yard.

    It's my understanding they were still in the testing and discovery phase when she passed.

    Note: It's one thing to constantly hear about all of this on the news. It's something entirely different to have it happen to someone you talk to several times a week over/through the wood fence next door.
     
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    Not enough. If more tragic stories like this were told publicly, there might be fewer parties and other improper gatherings.
     
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    You would hope, but I'm not so sure. There's a segment of the population that says I won't get sick, so I want to get it and get it over with. I've been told this to my mask covered face more than once. It takes a lot of internal strength not to respond inappropriately to something like that.
     
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    lots of stories in the news, but unfortunately, like smokers, they have to have it up close and personal before they become 'reformed'.
     
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    Interesting article, stating that when you factor in population growth over the past 7 decades, maybe this latest bad boy isn't so much after all.

    Never has a virus been so oversold | Spectator USA

    Sweden seems to have let things run their course, which seems terrible up front ....

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    But if everybody just isolates that are going to die anyways, it would seem like the only difference is that the economy is destroyed - and kids that would otherwise be in school failed to get socialized &/or educated as well.
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    she doesn't mention hospital surge capacity, or potential long term health effects, nor the devastation being wreaked on farm and meat factory workers, nor inner city populations
     
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    ... all things that Sweden's socialism is better equipped to handle than can our own health care and social safety net systems.
     
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    not following you, she is in new york, not sweden
     
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    Sweden is one of 7 countries with >500 covid 19 fatalities per million population. Some other European countries also have but none of the Nordic ones.

    US will soon join that group, later followed by Brazil and probably Mexico.

    Each of these countries has its own circumstances leading to this outcome. For some it surely includes too much lung communication.
     
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    but they have plenty of hospital beds and social safety nets ;)
     
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    As testing rates are very important, these countries have higher per capita testing rates than USA:

    Bahrain, Denmark, Iceland, Israel, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Russia, Singapore, United Arab Emirates.

    Of them, only Bahrain has higher incidence (cases per thousand population) than USA.

    Taking those other countries together, about 180 million people live in countries with higher testing rates (per capita) than USA. Their COVID-19 incidence is about 43% of that in USA.

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    Some countries do not report testing rates (that I can find) so there may be some omissions from this list.
     
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    Can you please provide links to support this?
     
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    if they ever reach production...

    some guy at mit was doing this months ago, still waiting for a product.

    can't wait for the fallout from sturgis, school reopenings, blah, blah, blah, we're going to need some kinda blocker :rolleyes:
     
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    NZ is right in the middle of getting owned in a second wave; I am up in Auckland. In four minutes an announcement re: lockdowns will occur; Auckland (the main city) is sealed off from the rest of NZ already!!
     
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    i thought it was just 4 new cases?
     
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    WHO sitrep 205 had 4 new cases in NZ. 206 had 14 and 207 had 13.

    So yes, it depends on what your definition of "was" is :)
     
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    I have no problem with an aggressive response.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    apparently, it came in on frozen food containers. but appearances can be deceiving