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TPMS sensor interchangeability?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by NewHybridOwner, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. NewHybridOwner

    NewHybridOwner Active Member

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    It's getting close to time to take my snow tires off. Since this was the first winter I've had the Prius, I had Costco install the snow tires on the original wheels, so the original tires are now without wheels. I'm thinking of doing what I did with the Pontiac Vibe: buy a set of "basic" wheels at the local tire store, provide my own TPMS sensors, and have them put the all-weather tires back on the original wheels and put the winter tires and new TPMS sensors on the new wheels.

    For the Vibe I bought the identical Denso TPMS sensors, but I am wondering whether that is really necessary.

    I see that the OEM Part# is 42607-06020, and there are many eBay listings that include that number, but many of those listings then show that they are NOT compatible with a 2015 Prius.

    What have others used (apart from the black tape over the yellow warning light)?
     
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    I wouldn't bother with tpms on the snow tires, well if you can get away with it. How to deal with the (miniscule) warning light? Just ignore it.

    If you do go with TPMS sensors, you'll need to introduce each set to the car, fall/spring. Dealerships can do this, for maybe $75 a visit, or you can read up, invest in equipment to DIY. Seems like cargo cult to me though.

    This steel rim by Toyota is good, won't need hub adapter rings:

    Corolla steel rim, part no: 42611-02471 (2003-2008 corolla or matrix, CE, LS, S)
    steel rim lug nuts, part no: 90942-01007 (plain, open-ended, galvanized)

    Try to cover the hub opening, and/or coat the hub with some sort of wax/oil. They tend to rust up badly when exposed. Ditto for wheel stud tips, if you use open-ended nuts. I found a 2" (nominal size, actually 2.375" ID) ABS end cap (Home Depot item) makes a good centre cap. It's slightly loose fit, but what I do is cut a "rubber band" of an old bicycle inner tube, push it onto the hub lip, then push/screw the ABS cap on. Stays on ok, and looks semi-presentable.
     
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    I know there are cloning sensors out there that can be programmed possibly with the exact original IDs. Would be very interested in that option as you wouldn’t technically have to deal with reprogramming the car every swap. The ATEQ QUICKSET is designed for winter summer swaps as the option for those with different IDs....
     
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    The local tire store where I bought the wheels for the Vibe has swapped the two sets of wheels for me twice now without charge -- but I don't know whether the Vibe (largely Toyota under the skin) is able to store two sets of TPMS IDs: each time, I have picked the Vibe up with the TPMS light off, but after a few miles it has come back on and the specified procedure for resetting it has not worked, so I have had to take it back for them to fix the problem.

    I am thinking about getting the el-cheapo TechStream cable and software anyway so I can register another key fob. That should work to re-register the TPMS sensors if the tire store people get sick of me.
     
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    Yap, I went through the exactly the same problem with my Gen3. In the end, for Gen3 I ended up just swapping winter and all-season twice a year on the same OEM rims with OEM TPMS inside at a tire place that offered free winter change-up. That was the most economical solution for me at that time. Now for my PRIME, I decided to go with winter tires with own rims, but as suggested by @Mendel Leisk , I went without TPMS, for adding that would create unnecessary complication and cost for simple tire swaps. However, I did purchase aftermarket EXTERNAL TPMS that goes on the stem. It looks like a giant tire bulb cap, but it works. You can monitor individual tire pressure real time, any time. Of course TPMS warning light stayed on the dash all winter long.

    That said, if you are determined to keep two sets of rims with two sets of TPMS on your PRIUS, AFAIK, Gen3 dose not have 8 slots to store two different sets of TPMS IDs. Your options are:

    1. Buy set of either OEM or aftermarket TPMS (does not matter as long as compatible Hz), and have a dealer or tire shop re-learn them twice a year when you swap. Yes, dealer will charge you bundle, but a local tire shop is likely to offer the service cheap (or free if you buy tires and rims there).

    2. As mentioned by @jzchen, buy clonable aftermarket TPMS sensors like Autel MX-Sensor, and program them to copy the IDs from your OEM TPMS. The problem is to do this correctly, you will need TPMS programming tool and device to read the existing OEM TPMS IDs. That could cost you upward of ~$250 or more. Add a new set of programmable TPMS on to that, your new set of winter tires on its own rims and programed TPMS gets very expensive. If you have a good relationship with a local tire shop, you could ask to do the programming part for you, so you don't have to invest in a device you will use only once.

    3. As a total DIY solution, you can use either Techstream or as suggested above ATEQ QUICKSET (~$75 last I looked) to do your re-learning process yourself. For this you will just need any compatible aftermarket TPMS or OEM TPMS. However ATEQ QUICKSET has no ability to read the ID from TPMS, so you do have to know IDs of both sets of TPMS before you can proceed. Techstream will be able to read ID's even if inside of tires, I think.

    Good luck.
     
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    I have a 2013 Prius V. I ditched the ugly plastic wheel covers, and bought 4 hub covers on Amazon or eBay. These were originally meant for the Toyota Sienna. They fit exactly, have the Toyota logo, and were less than $10 for the set of 4. Just measure the hole size, and see if you get a match.
     
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