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What "junk yard" wheel will fit a 2013 Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by spudnut, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. spudnut

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    I need a wheel to fit my stock 2013 PIP, just for when I get WAY out there, like the other day, 45 minutes from any cell coverage, and another 30 minutes to the nearest small town. I hit a rock at 25 mph, and immediately lost most of the air. Luckily a 6 year old can of Fix-A-Flat saved the day, at least it inflated the tire enough to slowly drive, 20 mph, while the goop in the FAF got spread around. Then my e bike's 52 volt air compressor got the tire up to half of normal pressure, then I drove a bit more, until it leaked down again, and over the next 30 minutes the tiny air compressor gradually gained on the leak, and then the leak appeared to stop. Back in civilization, I found it had leaked some more, but each subsequent re-inflation on the 2 hour drive back home lasted longer. Now it's been 4 days, and my already ordered (before this last boonie trip) Michelin Ice X tires (on sale at Costco) are in, and will be mounted up early next week. I got OVER 45 K miles out of my first set of ices, 45 PSI all around, left on year round, but rotated religiously every 5 K miles, so the re-purchase was a no brainer. I still have more then enough tread left to be safe, legal, and sane, great tires!

    But next time way out there, I'll pack a spare, what wheels fit?
     
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    15" Corolla steel rim works, a stock rim from around 04~08 IIRC. It has the correct hub opening, not oversized to fit all. They're getting pricey though, last time I looked. Generic rims will work too, just need adapter ring. Or not, if just for emergency use.

    Info regarding the Corolla rim here:

    16" rims on snow tries | PriusChat
     
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    The lug patern is 5 x 100mm which is a pretty common size among compact cars of many foreign and domestic makes. The center bore for the Prius (and I believe all Toyota 5 x 100 wheels) is 54.1mm. Other makes with a 5 x 100 lug pattern might have a different sized center bore though, so you need to be mindful of that. A center bore smaller than 54.1 won't fit over the hub so is completely useless to you. A center bore larger will fit, but will require extra care when installing to be sure the wheel gets properly centered by the lugs when tightened.
    If you're looking at the junk yard, you can get exact-fit from any Gen-2 or newer Prius. (NOT Prius V Wagon which is 5 x 114.3), '04 or newer Corolla, Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, Celica, and some others.

    Check this link. It's a good resource that lists many makes/models.
     
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    Not to hijack the thread, but does fix-a-flat ruin the TPMS?
     
  5. spudnut

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    Thanks guys.

    No one asked why I didn't use the Toyota emergency flat tire kit......so I'll fess up!

    The tire was actively leaking, I could hear it, and while I didn't panic, but before it popped off the rim perhaps, I did get a tad excited and in a hurry. My initial inspection of the Toyota compressor, showed that it SEEMED to have the needed Schrader valve hose missing/no way to interface it and the tire 's valve stem. A quick glance at the bottle of the kit's goop and I saw a expiration date of 2018..... that and the seeming lack of a way to use the compressor made me immediately move onto the Fix-A-Flat. Only later did I take the time to understand how the goop bottle interfaces with the compressor, the Toyota engineer's as usual had it all figured it, my bad. Once home, I tried it out and it worked fine.

    Being a mountain biker, I am very familiar with various tire goop products and how well they can seal a leak, and what they all share in common is after their injection into the tire, getting that tire rotating is critical to it's effectiveness, getting it to where it's needed. I just managed to out pace the leak with my small compressor (luckily my e bike battery was fully charged) but it was a very close call. Most sane people would not venture into an area like I was in without a viable spare, but part of the fun for me of driving a Prius is going against the stereotypes, taking the thing where it shouldn't be! Using it like a SUV. But after this incident, I'll consider my point proved, after 50 K miles, and numerous remote area outings, and next time I venture way the hell out I'll sacrifice some small fraction of a single MPG by carrying the extra weight of a spare tire and jack! A cowboy in a pickup stopped by about 5 minutes after I had first stopped, and I assured him I had it all under control and didn't need any help. He was courteous and polite enough NOT to ask why the heck I was where I was, IN A PRIUS without a spare! The high point of the entire incident was 30 minutes later, driving by where he was feeding cattle, and giving him a thumbs up, showing him that we Prius drivers aren't all as dumb as I looked.
     
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    Another thing you might consider carrying is a puncture repair kit like this for small holes from nails or screws. It's available at any auto parts store, Walmart, or the like.
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    They sell kits with an included 12 volt pump, but it seems like you already have that covered with your e-bike pump. I have a kit like this along with a pump in all of my vehicles (even though they all have spare tires). It's easier to plug a nail/screw hole than swapping on a spare.
     
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    You should at least have a scissor jack; even the models without spare have them, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    The consensus from FE experts on the www says an additional 100lb load will eat up 2-3% of fuel.
     
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    I’m 0 for 3 when it comes to fix a flat goop. All of them were during the summers with nail punctures. I followed the instructions that morning, the flat happened over night so I didn’t do the fix a flat on the road. Left the tire in the sun with puncture facing down, put tire back on during noon time and hit the highway. Heard a loud pop from the fix punctured tire after 20 minutes and wobbles galore. Put the spare on and never cared for fix a flat ever again, then Moved onto the good ole plug kit. Been in all my cars owned.
     
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    I've never used the spray in goop stuff.

    I carry plug repair kits like the one shown above in all my cars, in addition to the spare tire that they all have. I've probably used those kits to plug about a dozen+ tires over the years, always done in my driveway.

    I would definitely not recommend anyone count on learning how to do that for the first time ever by the side of the road. Even with all my experience, having figured out all the little tricks to make it work, I would swap a spare tire before trying the plug repair. The plug repair is as a backup, or once driven to a safe working area.

    I carry a small assortment of tools in all my cars, including versatile things like pliers and screwdrivers, and ...

    sheet metal screws that can be used as a temporary roadside plug in some cases caused by a nail, etc. Use the pliers to pull the nail / screw out. Air will be leaking rapidly. Then screw the sheet metal screw into the hole that just opened up. By choosing the right screw diameter, it will fit tighter than the nail did, sealing the hole well enough so you can drive away. You can use some of that glue in the tire plug kit to help seal the threads. The reason to use a sheet metal screw (vs. other screws) is that they are generaly self tapping (cut a hole and threads as they go), have coarse threads, and often a wide head. The head will probably wear away by the time you get where you're going, but the body of the screw will stay in place, keeping the seal.

    One big factor regarding spare tires is ... what do you do when you get two flats and have one spare tire? It is a fair concern, if there is road debris causing the flats. That is another reason the repair kits might save the day.
     
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    No joy at any of my local salvage yards on a used rim, meanwhile my tire hasn't lost any pressure in 3 days. Before I'd buy a new rim on ebay, (not the money so much, but it may NEVER be used, I don't mind spending money but not wasting it) I could buy a lot of patch kits, 12 VDC compressors, and Fix-A-Flat. Living on a mountain side, 1200' vertical feet up, I am more weight conscious then most probably, and that's why I don't carry a spare in any of my rigs, and haven't for over 30 years. Nowadays, with cell phones, I'll play the odds and still won't pack a spare or a jack, EXCEPT when I go places without cell coverage, more and more rare, even here in rural Idaho. So, in the meantime, I'll keep an eye out for a preferably free or almost free wheel, buy some more FAF, and most importantly, get my new IceX tires installed Tuesday.

    Anyone know if that Toyota compressor/goop setup, will work as just an air compressor, once the goop is expanded? Seems like it should, as long as the container is properly engaged on the pump.
     
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    Been there; done that. Used a tool called Jerr-Dan. Works great but costs a fortune.
     
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    Do you swap winter and summer tires each year?
     
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    No, IceX year round.

    Thanks to this site, I read a post several years ago from someone saying he got 45 K out of his X's, and also didn't bother to swap them out. I am also quite pleased with their winter performance, especially as I live in an area that really needs AWD, on a mountain near a ski area. I like the tires so much, I bought a set for my beater RAV4, which is now about unstoppable. But I still attempt to drive the PIP as much as possible in the winter, the tires making that possible, as it saves me so much money and is generally a cushier ride then the 4. Each morning during the winter, I decide: which rig to drive? Sometime I guess wrong, but it keeps things more interesting then driving an SUV AWD year round like all my neighbors do! We're talking a few dollars staying in my wallet, on every sojourn into town, about 40 miles round trip, as compared if I was driving a Tahoe or a full sized pickup, or even a Subaru. The problem with a PIP is that it makes about every other vehicle seem like a gas hog, even the newer RAV4 Prime AWD's I've been eyeballing.

    Here's a pic, the left front tire was the culprit, this area is 8,000' high, surrounding area 11 K+', and not an area you see many Prius's in! IMG_20200911_104200425~2.jpg
     
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    Try Craigslist or FB Marketplace. There should be lots of people looking to sell sets of rims & tires that were their winter or summer set for a car they no longer have.
     
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    I scored a FREE emergency wheel, (the skinny one, not a real tire but good enough in a pinch, lighter and smaller too) out of a wrecked Corolla and a day later got my new Michelin Ice X's installed. I immediately raised their pressure up to my usual 45 PSI all around, which is maybe one reason I got a bit over 45 K out of the first set. The tire guys remarked on the very even wear patterns all 4 exhibited.
     
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