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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by erinF, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. erinF

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    Hi All, I apologize for the novel, but I really need some insight. 2006 Prius4h 67,517 miles .Serviced regularly at dealership. The past year driven only occasionally. I live in So California. Many months ago car did not start, we had to put battery charger on it (after investigating I believe my mother left inside lights on). Car not driven for a few weeks, had to put charger on again. Took to Toyota and got service, they said battery was fine. Car sat in garage/ driven rarely/ had to put battery charger on it again and when it started triangle light came on but then went out, started driving it around the block more regularly. While waiting for someone for about 15 minutes with my phone plugged in /went to turn it on/ it was dead, had to jump car. After getting it home it sat for several weeks, battery charged again and took to dealership. I informed them about all of the above. I tell them to do a regular service [$89.95] and let me know. While at work I get email saying the 12v battery was getting weak so I check the box that pops up to ok a new battery [$378.05], then a menu pops up to inform me I have an engine coolant seep so replace water pump [$670.06] so I check the ok box, next pop up serpentine belt glazed [$172.05], box checked...no more pop ups. When I get home from work I check my messages and my service advisor had left a message saying he wanted to talk to me about the hybrid battery going bad. I immediately call and he did not answer so I leave a message saying if that is the case then we probably wouldn't do the repairs I authorized earlier as we were considering buying a new Prius anyway. After a game of phone tag he tells me the work had already been done since it was authorized. So I pick up car, tell him I was upset that he did the service prior to telling me about the hybrid battery, I ask him if it was safe to drive for now he says yes, get in the car, no warning lights are on, before I could get out of parking lot all warning lights come on. I turn around, show him, he gets a diagnostic machine starts messing with it for a good 10 -15 minutes and mumbles something about maybe putting in the new 12v battery is causing something blah blah blah and says he will have to send it back to the mechanics. Next day calls me and tells me it is the hybrid battery. quotes are replace hybrid battery $2950.04, replace combination meter $947.06, hv fan service $289.00. He tells me to call Toyota corporate and ask about warranty as he could not make request. I talk to corporate, told them what happened and they try to get ahold of dealership for a good 3 weeks. Today I talk to corporate and they are offering to pay $2100. 00 toward new battery. My question is, If the dealer is charging me a total of 4100.00 or even just the battery charge of 2950.00 is it worth it. I am so mad they did the other work before telling me about the hybrid battery I question if any of it was or is even needed. We bought all of our cars from this dealership and get all of our service done there as well...help! And thank you if you actually read this entire post!
     
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    This is a hard one. If you rely on the dealer then those charges are about what it costs for most of it.

    I would question the $172.05 (yes, even now) for replacing the serpentine belt. If the water pump they replaced was the engine water pump, they should have only charged the cost of the belt $25 ??? The water pump job involves removing and replacing the belt, so there should be zero labor cost for doing that.

    If you can DIY some repairs yourself or have a family member you can call on, the fan cleaning can be done for just your time, maybe two hours, and the combination meter can be done for about $150 and two hours of time as someone who has never done either job before.

    Having got a $2100 contribution from Toyota Corporate, I'd take that $850.04 (the cost to you) HV battery in a heartbeat.

    As I said, it is a hard one but if I did do that work, particularly the HV battery, I'd probably be keeping the car for another 5 years and not trading it right now.
     
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    Welcome to PriusChat!!
    Best to always leave the vehicle in "ready" or "off", else the 12v battery can discharge quickly. Don't ask me how I know :cool:

    How far are you from Costa Mesa?
     
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    Thank you for the insight, I just find it a little suspect that it even needed a hybrid battery with such low mileage and the light not staying on prior to me bringing it in, and then it being off when I first drove away and the service advisor mumbling 'maybe it was due to the new 12v battery being put in. I know when you change a battery it causes the electronics to need to be reset...I don't know, plus women are suckers a lot of the time! LOL but thanks again for the insight!
     
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    It was in off mode but I had my phone plugged in if that makes a difference, and I'm not far from costa mesa at all!
     
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    '06 with 67K mileage.

    I found the OP's post difficult to read.

    Not sure of what I could offer in a reply.

    1 - Spend $3K to have your current car rebuilt/ dependable?
    2 - How much cash will you spend purchasing a year 2021 with a trade in ....$15K?
    3 - Inept service writer, piece-mealing your telephone repair authorization and phone tag?
    4 - A need to find a new dealership repair shop?
    5 - Toyota Corp is offering a $2K discount on a battery repair cost to you ?

    "My question is, If the dealer is charging me a total of 4100.00 or even just the battery charge of 2950.00 is it worth it. I am so mad they did the other work before telling me about the hybrid battery I question if any of it was or is even needed."

    So, I am unsure of any comment that is helpful.
    1 - Do a trade in + potential $4K in cash you were going to spend on a battery toward a new car as a down payment?
    2 - $4K spent on current (lo mileage) car making it dependable?
    (Maybe a decision factor...Is the current car's interior pristine/ like new?)
    3 - As for your un-needed repairs, double billing, phone tag, phone call time log....either negotiate with dealership service manager or GM or a small claims court filing (but IMO that filing will "burn your bridge with the dealer") I suppose.

    That's my understand of the OP post and question, not sure if my answers are relevant.

    Good luck.
     
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    Classic dealer rumping.

    First of all stop getting your car serviced regularly at the dealership. There not doing you any favor. If you throw them the keys and say change my oil they will use the the most god awful cheapest crappy oil you have ever seen and over fill the hell out of the engine. I wouldn't use that oil in my lawnmower.
    If you go out now and check the oil dipstick you will see its either very low or very high from where it should be.

    Huge markup on parts. And you cannot trust anything they say or do. There lying and lazy and be driven you crazy.

    I don't know where you live in California but there lots of independent Prius repair shops out there.Prius is a very popular car.
    Luscious Garage in San Francisco is the best. Check out there website.

    You must find someone other than a dealer to help you. At there $175 an hour labor rate and huge mark up there killing you.

    Tell us where you live so we can help.
     
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    i would go for it. you're getting a pretty good deal for what essentially is going to be a brand new car.
    all the best!(y)
     
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    Hi Erin-
    Its seems like thats not right such low mileage and needs a new hybrid battery but really that's what kills the battery the fastest when its that old is not driving. Same for the 12 volt battery. No ones driving that much anymore and its killing all the G2 battery's. Look around on this forum endless hybrid battery failures including my own.

    The battery's that last the longest are the cars that are driven till there wheels fall off. many people have there original battery with 250-300 thousand miles on the car. The battery's are constantly being discharged then completely charged. Batterys like that. Its the sitting that kills them and builds up corrosion on all the wiring.

    So...if you can get a new hybrid battery for $850 I would walk over broken glass for that deal. Its the best thing to do because that will really help offset being totally ripped off on the things they have already replaced. I just spent $1600 on a new battery.

    Jump on that. Good Luck.
     
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    When was the last time the 12v battery was replaced?

    After you have a new OEM hv battery installed, this will increase the resale value of the vehicle. Then locate a new independent mechanic, and if no one can recommend one, then do some research. I've never used the listed businesses below.

    Example mechanics might include :

    Hybridpit -- Passion With Perfection and some reviews here :
    Hybrid Fix (310) 426-8432 reviews over here :
    Sam Auto Hybrid | The Hybrid Battery Repair Specialist vehicle pick up/drop off and possibly nearby, reviews :

    There are plenty of others no doubt.
     
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    Thanks for the input, sorry about my original post, I was in an upset rant but trying to give as many details as I could. The car is my mothers who is 84 and doesn't even drive but has to have her car! I drive it occasionally as it is larger and more powerful than my prius c. It does have a few dings and scratches and the interior is not pristine but ok. That is why I was upset about not being told about the hybrid battery going bad before the $1400.00 worth of work was done, I would not of done it except my mom has to have her car in good running condition and really was considering buying a new car [basically for me to drive her around in!]
     
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    sounds like a good deal also
     
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    Unfortunately, a hybrid battery with little use is a prime candidate for failure, as EdtheFox5 has already said,

    If you do decide to replace the car, I would not get another hybrid for your mother, unless your driving her around would give it 'every other daily' use. A new hybrid can stand sitting around much better than an old one can, it is just a byproduct of the battery chemistry.
     
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    im not fully understanding why it would need a new Combination Meter... i thought the typical symptoms of a bad combo meter is that the power button acts like it's glitchy and/or the speedometer will be black even when the car is running...
     
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    If its not too late, I would gather all the emails, messages and information and seek out the sales manager. They have to do you good at this point, especially since they charged you without notification. Just my two cents.
     
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    on the recommended items it has error codes of B1271, P0A80 and C1241 listed next to all three itemswhich are the hybrid battery, combo meter and hv fan service..all three codes next to all three items
     
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    just update as to where i am on this situation. After talking to toyota corporate she told me that she spoke to service director and game me the name, and the price corporate said they would pay covers parts and labor on the new hybrid battery. Corporate asked if i accepted the offer of $2178 I said let me confirm with the dealership if that there will be no other charges [with the exception of tax which i would expect to pay] So i call toyota and the service director is no longer employed there. So i have spent the last week trying to get ahold of the new director, a week later no luck.. Today i get a message from the service advisor saying he got approval for a partial warranty fix on the battery and he emailed me the numbers. No email...[i even checked my junk folder]. So i call back to try to talk to someone again, talked to the receptionist and as of now still waiting. They have now had my car for over a month and taken hours of my time. [I say screaming and pulling my hair out!]
     
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    excuse my typos on the last post
     
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    At this point and since corporate offers $2100 out of the $4100 it is ok to finish this work at the dealer. However, I would strongly suggest to not go back to the expensive dealer anymore. I understand that you do not have the time/tool/experience to work on this car your self but still you could save a lot of money by just shopping around. For example, a 12v battery could be installed at Pepboys for $160 vs $378. The water pump can be replaced at any independent shop as it is not different than normal cars for $400 vs $670. Serpentine belt again $80 installed vs $172. The combination meter can be repaired and installed for around $225 or less vs $947. Now on the hybrid battery nothing compares to an OEM brand new hybrid battery. Nevertheless, you could compromise for a rebuild service which also includes cleaning the hybrid fan for around $600 vs $2950+$289.

    What you paid (and we all have in the past) is now done but you could enjoy the car in the future paying a little less for repairs. This site provides very good information on most common issues.
     
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    Oh man so sorry but this is a common post here. What was once one of the most reliable little car's ever is now in its old age a little monster that needs thousands of dollars to get it back on the road.

    So many posters come here after getting a flogging from the dealer which is not really good business for future sales. Not sure what to tell you except become a real pain in there nice person and hound them.

    The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

    Chase that offer on the new hybrid battery thats all that matters what will make you whole on this episode.

    Good luck.