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What's EATING your gasoline cans?

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  1. cyberpriusII

    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    I spent part of the weekend making sure our gasoline cans are ready for winter. We end up storing about five gallons of "saw" gas (oil/gas mix) and about 15 gallons of straight gasoline -- all non-ethanol.

    Between power failures (which have lasted as long as three weeks, though they usually are resolved in a day or two) and downed trees, etc., have learned to be prepared. If the straight gas does not get used in a month, it goes in a car. The saw gas has stabilizer, so no worries.

    ANYWAY -- one of my Tuff Jug gas cans decided to break on me and while researching gasoline can alternatives, I found that beetles are stealing gasoline....

    What's Eating Your Gas Cans? - Florida Pest Control
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    Thankfully, it does not.

    But, I saw pictures of some gasoline cans the bug had attacked. Wow.

    Also, I only have non-ethanol in the gasoline cans, so no issue anyway. But was surprised by the information.
     
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    Thanks for the beetle link. Insects that eat plastic polymers are 'the flavor of the month' around here, and those associated with fungi, even better.

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    Insects don't eat steel.

    Because VOC's will permeate through a plastic gas can, unless used for short term storage, I only use steel gas can's like the one shown as it is a CARB version of the original German jerry can.

    Jerry Can - 5 Gallon Metal Jerry Can
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    anything meeting CARB is an automatic no go at my place:eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Simple and easy modification to the spout;

     
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    The new gas can spouts are ridiculous. The ones on new cans now at lowes are unlike the ones Georgina they are much worse they have a pistol grip deal it takes 3 hands. Horrible.

    I bought after market spouts on amazon that work ok.
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    Key is to not get CARB cans in the first place. Then no mods needed
     
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    Vendors make CARB cans because they can be sold anywhere in the US. Where does one buy new non-CARB cans?
     
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    Many beetles with fungus pals eat wood. None have been explored in terms of plastic polymer consumption. Would have never occurred to me without Prius Chat. Should have.
     
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    Regarding the mind-set behind CARB gas cans: I bought a pint can of acetone some time back, and holy cripes: first order of business was extricating the actual metal cap from the plastic security collar that near-confounded opening, and PROMOTED spilling.
     
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    A 2009 regulation passed under the Bush Administration requires C.A.R.B. compliant cans for ALL 50 states.

    New Regulations for Portable Fuel Containers
     
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    Yes where does one buy these mythical cans? Cause there not around here.

    Do you mean like military Jerry cans? Those are cool but way to heavy for me.
     
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    This sounds more like the case of digest in pet food.

    Animal digest - Wikipedia is a flavoring agent. In and of itself, it isn't bad, but its presence in the ingredient list could mean there is something there that isn't the best for the animal. Cats in particular find it yummy, and will eat cardboard chips sprayed with it.

    It appears the beetles are trying to get to the ethanol that has infused into the plastic. Someone can get a paper out of confirming this or not. Someone probably already has.
     
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    If you lived in a logging community, or hang out in logger bars, :) -- well, first you would drink Lucky Lager. And second you would know what fuel cans loggers use -- and the loggers are not using CARB cans.

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    The brands that come to mind are Scribner, VP racing, Tuff Jug, U Jug -- I think most of the loggers around me (and there are not many) use VP, could be wrong, but that is the jug sold in the local saw store, so I suppose that is what they use. It is what I bought.

    These jugs, strictly, are not for gasoline used for on-road vehicles. While, I don't know the strict law behind them all, I am not seeing the Washington State Patrol stopping and citing loggers.

    Anyway, as I understand it, they are basically made for "track cars or bikes" and it is legal to transport racing fuel in these containers. The loggers I know, and my father was a logger btw, use them for the gasoline and oil mix they use in their chainsaws.

    I use them for the gasoline for my lawn mower and generator as well as for my chainsaw and weedwacker. They are dead simple to use. I have a two-gallon for my chainsaw and a five gallon that I keep for general use.

    So, if you want a non-CARB gasoline can for your Prius -- unless you are a rebel :whistle::whistle: -- you are out of luck. If you want to have a gasoline can for your "other stuff," I think -- and I could be wrong -- the cans I cited may be "legal." I know there are lots of Amazon reviews and questions about them regarding gasoline and I don't think any of those asking are tree cutters.

    I would use a CARB can if I found one that actually worked. I am all for conservation and environment.

    I have spent close to, what $150 on CARB cans -- including the "no-spill" brand and still have not found one that works well outside of whatever laboratory where they test these irritating, gas-spilling CARB cans. I wasted a lot more gas struggling with the CARB technology than I ever did with the old containers.

     
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