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For Sale Gen 2 hybrid pack 66k (strong & great price, data for each module)

Discussion in 'Private Sales' started by Albert Barbuto, Aug 31, 2020.

  1. Albert Barbuto

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    $225 shipped.

    This is the original pack from my 2005 Prius. I purchased this vehicle last Fall with 58k miles. Soon thereafter, I was able to purchase a 2019 pack at a "can't be passed" deal. I placed the new pack in storage, in the coldest area of the basement, for future use.

    The original pack, due to the low miles, plus having spent it's life in a cooler climate, (New York State) is very strong. (see update at bottom of page) Look at the numbers for each module, and decide for yourself. Module #15 is the new replacement. (mfg May/2014 ) Compare the pack to this six year old module.

    I have load tested all modules at thirty amps. I was happy with the entire pack except for module #27. It was the weakest of the pack, so out it goes.

    (see screen shot Torque Pro, 31 and 146 amp draw, module #27 & 28 shows .1v lower than all others)



    The May/2014 module has replaced module #27. I moved the original pack module #15 to slot #27, and the May/2014 module now resides in slot #15. Strongest modules should be in the center of the pack.



    To give the 30 amp draw numbers some relevance, let's look at the six year old replacement module. It arrived at 8.02v I charged the module, and it accepted 2000ma. First 30 amp load test achieved 7.370v I deep cycled the module with a very light load. Next 30 amp load test achieved 7.400v Now the 2005 pack numbers will have some significance.

    While putting the modules in the shipping boxes, I measured ALL between 7.88 to 7.90v The resting voltages are almost identical.





    This will be a great pack to keep your Prius running strong, without spending much money at all. Removed from the vehicle with 66k miles. Prices on Ebay, for Lord knows what, are insane. My pack comes with test data for each module, plus Torque Pro screen data. Do you ever see this? No....

    Module Data: At first I was cycling, to get the capacity of the module. Just like everyone else does. Then I came to the realization that the car could care less about this. Voltage drop under load, plus the difference in voltage between the strongest and weakest module is ALL that the car "sees". That's when I focused on 30 amp loads, plus using Torque Pro for extreme amp loads.





    I do recommend that you purchase a BRAND NEW hybrid pack for maxium reliability, vs this pack, if the following conditions are present:

    (1) You live in the USA where it is brutally hot.

    (2) The car sits a lot, and does not get much use.

    (3) You have "normal" American driving habits. You race to the next red light, and hit the brakes hard. When green, you floor the accelerator. This slams 100 amps regen during braking, and 150 amps out during acceleration. This is HARD on the hybrid pack.

    (4) You are not willing to cycle/top balance the 2005 pack 2x per year.

    (5) You are not comfortable with module rehydration. Sixteen modules have been rehydrated.



    Included with the modules is "Wire Frame #2". I read it was suggested to replace this, however there is nothing wrong with the old part at all. I removed two copper bars, and soaked them in a vinegar/salt mixture. (see pic) Then I applied a light coating of clear synthetic lubricant to both sides, and on all edges to prevent oxidation. It looks as good as new.

    Also included is the hard copy test data for all modules.

    When these modules are reassembled into a complete pack, the strongest should go in the center of the pack, with weaker tapering towards both edges. Take a minute to look things over, and reward yourself for a job well done.

    Replacement module #15 resting voltage : This was just purchased and cycled. It's resting voltage will be .1v higher than all other modules. This "surface charge" will dissipate in about a week, and will be the same voltage as all other modules.



    Shipping:

    Everything has been placed into two "Large Flat Rate" USPS Priority boxes. Lots of extra cardboard has been placed around contents.



    Payment:

    I will accept Paypal "Friends & Family". (No fees using this.) $225 shipped.

    Personal checks, or money orders are also fine, and will need to clear before shipping. Postal Money Orders will also work.



    Thanks...



    UPDATE: I've had three days with the 2019 pack. The only difference I can see is during regen. I live two miles from downtown. There is a 600' elevation drop. Both the 2005 & 2019 packs add a green bar at the same spot during the drive.

    Here is the difference: When the 2019 pack gets all 8 bars green, slighty more energy keeps going into the pack. When regen is finished, and you are now using the battery, it stays at the 8 bar level longer. Once down to 6 blue bars on the level, there is no difference between the packs that you could possibly tell. None...
     

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  2. 2GenPrius

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    Sorry if I'm a little slow...but why are there screws in the module? Is that to charge cells?
     
  3. Albert Barbuto

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    If the battery was strong, there would be no need to rehydrate. I helped a friend move a 2005 from a wrecked car with 80k and the batteries were in great shape without any modification.
     
  5. Albert Barbuto

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    What method did you use to determine that "the batteries were in great shape"?
     
  6. lunacyworks

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    The 2005 had been brought into a Toyota dealership and had the battery tested right before it was hit and totaled in a parking lot. Not being sure of what the dealership told the owner we bought the battery and put it on a specialized battery load tester uses DOE/ID-11069 standard type test protocol.