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Thursday, December 31 - last day to buy 2020 TSLA stock

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I did not buy or sell TSLA stock during the S&P500 buzz because I knew the S&P500 would not add value to the Tesla cars or manufacturing. There was a $5B stealth sale that simply improved the cash reserves. But that soon changes:
    • Jan 4, 2021 - we get the preliminary manufacturing and sales numbers.
    • ~Jan 18, 2021 - the refreshed Model S and X production ramps up.
    • ~Feb 13, 2021 - the Q4 2020 financials and forward statements for Q1 2021 are released
    There is a fair chance we'll see $1,000/share by the end of February.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    It's still way too high, huge bubble, even if the company has a bright future
     
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    everything is in a bubble, but they don't all burst
     
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    I’ve been hearing variations of this since the stock was $30/share ($6/share adjusted for splits).

    is it possible? Yes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Tesla is in better shape than they ever have been. And competition has yet to arise. Someday, it will, but Tesla has such a head start, I don’t think it will matter.
     
  5. Moving Right Along

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    The issue with buying Tesla stock now is it’s already so high, one wonders about its room to grow. I agree that Tesla seems to be succeeding quite nicely, and may even become the premier electric car manufacturer after the transition is complete. But if I was investing in a company, I would want to either invest after a company with a big stock presence had a significant failure or invest in a smaller stock company with a lot of room to grow.
     
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    Very well reasoned stance.
    Just to play devil's advocate, ask Bisco when he first was going to buy as soon as the price went down a bit ;-)

    As another suggestion, watch Cathy Wood of ARK Invest. She has some very interesting thoughts on investing in innovation. She talks about a number of industries.

    Here is a recent interview:
     
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  7. bisco

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    i could have bought in oct. 2018 for $180. but my broker said there was no room to grow (n)

    then it went to 2k, then came the 5 way split :sick:

    if the market tanks, elon will still be building cars and batteries, powerwalls, solar roofs, launching spaceships, boring tunnels and who knows what else.

    gm and ford? they'll be tanking
     
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    so very true .... the national debt bubble quickly went from 1 to 27 trillion. No explosion yet.

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    maybe starlink?

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    In the Year 2525 . . . . ;)

     
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    ~500k deliveries this year and analyst consensus is ~800k next year. Can't build out fast enough. Oh, of all the problems to have.:D
     
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    They are too low. With Austin and Berlin, they should be closer to 1 million.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    That’s all dependent on how fast those factories get operational. 1 million or more in 2022? absolutely. But I wouldn’t necessarily count on that many in 2021.
     
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    back before the stock split - it seemed way over price as it shot past $300 less than a year ago. Nevertheless, after putting in 5 figures of our IRA - we ignorantly never imagined it would continue to double in less than a year.
    Is it to high?
    would Tesla be signing nearly a billion dollar 5 year contract if it weren't reasonably certain that they would be needing so many tons of lithium ?

    China's Yahua agrees five-year deal to supply lithium to Tesla | Reuters

    You can't make a lot of hay if you don't have a giant pitchfork.
    Maybe tesla will implode, & maybe the rise will just keep on keeping on for now.
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    Looking at checking account, I noticed:
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    Add $100 to the $600 COVID deposit and you'll have one share, TSLA.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    not any more...
     
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    Stock is bought on the expectations of future profit. For value investors.

    Stock is bought on an expectation of quick appreciation by other folks.

    I own a stock that has doubled this year and their dividends only buy more of that stock. And the P/E ration of that stock is allowing me to expect that the dividends will have a reasonable chance to increase just as they have for the last 40+ years. I figured when I bought I could always sell at a little loss and it has sure exceeded those expectations through mergers, acquisitions, management changes, recessions, etc. That stock is now only about 10% of my net worth. I only kept one years worth of that stock I bought using an employee purchase plan. The other years went to pay for colleges, buy cars, pay off a mortgage. Debt free and haven't collected on my 401K RMD in 15 years of retirement.

    I remember when I touted the Wankel engine and Toyo Kogyo aka Mazda stock to my father. The next great thing wasn't.

    There are risks to even owning my stock. But compared to owning a stock like one of the FAANGs or Tesla, they are slight. Competition or someone with a better product could make all those factories a boat anchor. Or regulations, lawsuits, etc. Or not.

    I'm glad some of you here have made a lot of paper profits. Good luck with the rest of the ride.
     
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    tl;dr
    fortunately, tesla isn't a one trick pony, but yes, anything could go down