1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Mars Perseverance

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by iplug, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. iplug

    iplug Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2012
    2,447
    1,695
    0
    Location:
    Rocklin, CA
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    ----USA----
  2. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    7,673
    6,492
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Gotta love the fact that Perseverance appears on the environmental sub-forum (because it's nuclear powered?) of a Prius sub-forum!

    Does the fact that it uses an RTG to charge a Lithium-Ion battery pack make it a 'hybrid'? :D
     
  3. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,312
    3,588
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    The actual videos from the spacecraft are cool of the landing process.
    Damn we have to live 10 years to get the rocks back...I have to eat my Wheaties and live the good life in hopes to make it.
     
  4. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,214
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
  5. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,312
    3,588
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Had my scope on it Oct thru Nov due to close approach...lost it now it is tinier.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  6. PA Prius

    PA Prius Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2007
    753
    240
    0
    Location:
    SE Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    Maybe here on a car site, since rumor is that the first contact Perseverance received after landing was a call inquiring about its extended warranty.
     
    bwilson4web likes this.
  7. AzusaPrius

    AzusaPrius Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2020
    1,669
    769
    0
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
  8. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    7,673
    6,492
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I spent too many years under water to want to fly several months for the privilege on living under ground on Mars.
    Unless they noodle out how to generate a magnetopshere on Mars, the 'scenery' on Mars is going to be fairly uninteresting.....

    People sometimes ask me if I've ever been under the the Artic ice pack, and if so what it was like.
    I tell them that it's exactly like being on the equator or anywhere else in the ocean, and it looks like the inside of a submarine. :D
     
    iplug and bwilson4web like this.
  9. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,123
    15,389
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Just to add:
    • 0.095 psi - Mars atmospheric pressure
    • 14.7 psi - Earth atmospheric pressure
    • ~154 difference
    Given the earth 0{2} ratio is about 20%, we could with a 100% oxygen level:
    • 0.095 psi - Mars atmospheric pressure
    • 2.94 psi - 100% Earth atmospheric pressure
    • ~31 difference
    The pressure difference means the 'suit' would have to be substantial, close to a vacuum suit ... the interior of a shallow water submarine.

    Personally, I would want an inner mesh of kevlar for pressure with an outer layer of reflective layers. The idea is to keep the 'cold' out and the 'warm' in. But there remains a ballistics problem.

    If (when) a meteor hits Mars and reaches the surface (likely), there will be a substantial outflow from the crater that spreads planet wide. With any reasonable Mars surface material density, these particle will easily pierce the suit and occupant.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #9 bwilson4web, Feb 27, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2021