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    Ok. One friend said I just use a regular socket but the bolt has a spring on it on it prevent rust? No idea; guess I will find out soon.

    Also anyone know this part #? Want to order a new one. It’s the passenger side one. One of the little plastic pieces must have broken off and it keeps popping out. I can’t find it on oemvehicleparts.com

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    My guess is that the spring is a locking device to keep the bolt from getting loose. It is subject to vibrations from the engine and wiggling of the exhaust.

    I think the tow hook cover is a break away piece. Think I'd just glue it back on. A dealer parts counter should be able to answer if a replacement is available.
     
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    Got it. Thanks !!

    as soon as it stops snowing here (it’s starting to become like a sick joke, we have more then 26” on the ground, everyday we get a bit of melting then at night it snows 1-3” and just brings it back). Lol
     
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    Guys, is this the same part? It appears so, but the thing is, this part came off the car a month ago when I found it dangling from the undercarriage. Here is my heat shield (I saved just in case- glad I did):

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    Is that the same as this? It says I need this but it kinda goes in between the exhaust and the fuel tank curve. But I thought I remember pulling this shield from towards the back side of the car more:

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    it sure looks like it. Look where the little square cutout and other holes are and the number or lettering in the center is.

    I even took the old one to the Toyota parts department and he wasn’t 100 percent sure but he said it “sure looks like it.”

    I hope it is, because it would be $82.00 less I have to spend. I found a new Toyota OEM
    exhaust for $402. MIDAS wanted $868 to put their own on with a new muffler. Or $128 to install one I bring in. Yah, no thanks.

    As for the shield missing, there’s no actual part number stamped anywhere on my piece, I looked. Just a “P” with an arrow pointing which I assume means passenger side.
     
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    Another shot of mine. It sure looks like its the same ! Unless there are TWO of the exact same design heat shields in under this car?

    Mine:

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    Stock photo of it:

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    I just put the car up on ramps in the rear and it is indeed the only missing heat shield. So it’s kinda funny how that one was already off the car a month earlier. All the others are there- and I temporarily secured the exhaust with some bungee cords until I get the new OEM one in week or so. Normally I’d park it and just drive my other car but it’s still buried under 20-30” of snow.

    Installing the new exhaust looks like it will be fairly straight forward since it’s all once piece; also ordering a new gasket where it meets the cat just in case. All the exhaust hangers are still there.

    BTW - the spring type bolts holding the exhaust piping to the rear of the cat will indeed come off with regular sockets, for anyone wondering. I saw them up close.
     
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    While you are tinkering with your exhaust, you may want to tinker around with your catalytic converter.
    Allentown is not a particularly small town and there are a lot of stories circulating that feature “Prius”, ”Catalytic Converter”...and “Theft.”
    This seems to be largely a problem in other places and involving other models (say some) BUT....if you have welding skills, or sometimes park in high crime areas it might be something to mull over.

    Good Luck!
     
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    I think there are bolt on cat defenders. You don't want to make it impossible to take off in case you need too, just enough of a hassle for someone looking to do it fast.

    The older Prii are generally the target has their cats used more of the expensive metals.
     
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    Yes I thought about that - not sure what to do. Wish I could weld.
     
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    Well gentlemen, I got both lucky and unlucky. Good news is the car is running great.

    Lucky:
    1) Instead of paying $430+ at my local Toyota dealer parts department for a brand new exhaust, I was able to locate one for $140, in great shape, from Car-Part.com pulled from a wrecked 2018 Prius. It was only an hour drive and saved me $100 in shipping:

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    Unlucky:

    2) While under the car I discovered the lower rear control arm, which is right near the muffler was absolutely PULVERIZED from the incident. Toyota wanted $148 for a new one. Here are pics of it after I removed it:

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    ^^ Seriously that thing got massacred.

    Lucky:

    3) The same location that had the exhaust ALSO had a great condition control arm for $65 which I also picked up in person and saved on shipping:

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    Lucky:
    4) I was able to save another $100 by carefully unbending the heatshield that got knocked loose by looking under a Prius at the Toyota dealer and looking also from photos online (they had a 2017+ up in the air and the parts guy let me carry my heat shield and stand under the car to look). Not perfect but it’s back on my car. The dealer wanted $107 for a new one plus the rivets.

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    Sort of unlucky:

    5) The 4 black plastic rivets that attach the heat shield I could only find at Toyota, very odd and specific size, and didn’t want to do some rig job, so I forked over the $8.28 each which w/ tax came to close to $40 for them. I mean, I can’t imagine they cost more than .10 cents to make a piece. Amazingly 4 plastic rivets were only $27-$28 less than the replacement lower control arm.

    ANYWAYS, we had a semi warm day here in the northeast (46 degrees) and the sun was out and I completed the job in 3 hours. New control arm on, new exhaust on w/ heat shield. When I discovered how badly the control arm was damaged last week I didn’t drive it of course, up until then I had used bungee cords to secure the exhaust. I previously thought the alignment was off because I ran over the chunk of whatever from the plow in the front, but now as you can see it was the rear lower control arm, the rear of the car was fighting my steering; it’s now steering almost perfectly center and the car is driving fine now. :)

    So there is the end of my saga of being in the wrong place at the wrong time! Glad to have her back driving normally. :)
     
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    Well, we all have an "aw shoot" day now and then. Thankfully you're okay and the car will survive!
     
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    ^ More pics of the LCA & the exhaust. Unreal.

    I cant believe a bunch of ice and snow or whatever it was can do this. I guess *anything* that hits something doing 55-60 MPH can do massive damage. The muffler itself has a 2 inch “gash” in it as well as being bent to hell, which ended the idea of having it cut off and welded to new piping. Any other car I would have gotten some sort of performance oriented exhaust considering I had to replace the entire cat back anyway, but they practically don’t exist, unless custom made. Or I found one for $950+
     
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    For those cuts?

    Something was frozen into that snow & ice. A chunk of guardrail, manhole cover, dropped engine parts from a Boeing, foot of rebar... might never know but I think that snowman had a skeleton.
     
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    Wow... the damage is far more serious than you first alluded in your original post. You were indeed lucky that it did not cause serious injury. I gather you are trying to repair this without reporting to insurance? If so, you will have no record on your VIN. I guess, you that must be also a "lucky" part of the incidence. This would be way beyond my ability to DIY repair for sure. Good luck with the repair.
     
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    Outstanding work!
    You turned a well-over $1,000 incident with a potential insurance and diminished value ding into a little over a $300 DIY fix (less than the OEM muff) plus maintaining a pristine record for you and the car where accidents are concerned.

    Time and effort WELL spent.
     
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    That’s what I was thinking. We had so much snow it could have been a piece of a car for all I know.
     
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    You could do it :) it’s just about having the right tools and since it’s a 2020 there’s no rusted or rounded off bolts like an older car would be in this part of the country. :) The exhaust was just a pain to line up by myself so used a jack stand to hold up the rear & muffler while I attached it to the cat and then moved down the line attaching to the hangers.

    I’ve done several clutch jobs and engine swaps on Nissan’s, as well as suspension so this was actually easier given I didn’t have to deal with any rust. :) Next time it snows I’m not leaving the house for a month. 4 weeks to go until April....
     
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    Now we now what happened to the Titanic;)

    Ice is hard, and most cars don't have an undercarriage designed like a Model S when it comes to impacts with road debris.
     
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    Well, even with the right tools, I don't think I have the skill and will to DIY such a big repair job to my skill level. Besides, a car lift will cost a few thousand dollars at least. I have insurance just for those occasions. There is no point in paying a high premium on a no-deductible collision/comprehensive plan if I am not going to use it.;)
     
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    I hear ya. I just used my floor jack and stands. Plus had I made a claim it would have went on the record as damage reported like others have said, being it’s a 2020 under 17k miles I decided to do it all myself. My deductible is $500 for comp and $1k for collision. I’m sure an estimate to fix this at a shop would have approached or exceeded $2k. So while I don’t know if it’s considered comp or collision, I would have had to pay either way and then have a mark on its record.

    On a scale of 1-10 (10 being a motor swap) the exhaust was a 2 and the LCA was like a 5. Have to know a few things about cars and have the right tools but it wasn’t bad at all. :)