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Newspaper Claims Moore Altered Front Page

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  1. Atoyot

    Atoyot New Member

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    Interesting....so much for Moore having all those good lawyers to make sure everything is true.....

    http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040801/.../D846MS1O1.html
    Aug 1, 6:26 PM (ET)


    (AP) Michael Moore, left, director of "Fahrenheit 9/11," and "The Tonight Show" host Jay Leno sing...
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    BLOOMINGTON, Ill. (AP) - Filmmaker Michael Moore's Bush-bashing documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" has apparently upset more than Republicans. The Pantagraph newspaper in Bloomington said Friday it sent a letter to Moore and the film's distributor, Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. (LGF), asking for an apology for using what it said was a doctored front page in his movie.

    The paper is seeking $1 in damages.

    A scene early in the movie shows newspaper headlines related to the contested 2000 presidential election. It includes a shot of The Pantagraph's Dec. 19, 2001, front page, with the prominent headline, "Latest Florida recount shows Gore won election."

    The newspaper says that headline never appeared on that day.

    The paper said the headline appeared in a Dec. 5, 2001, edition but was not used on the front page. Instead, it was found in much smaller type above a letter to the editor, which the paper says reflects "only the opinions of the letter writer."

    "If (Moore) wants to 'edit' The Pantagraph, he should apply for a copy-editing job," the paper said.

    Neither Lions Gate nor Moore were immediately available for comment Sunday.
     
  2. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    still loved his movie. you can love him or hate him, but no one can deny his ability to get people talking.
     
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    I like that they're seeking damages :mrgreen:

    There were plenty enough headlines elsewhere, I'm sure. Editing a newspaper in such a way just isn't a good move.
     
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    I'd be amazed if this were true, for the simple fact that hundreds of people on the right and in the media were hunting for inaccuracies in the movie. Its over a month later, and _this_ is the only lawsuit filed over the movie? Really? This was 2 solid hours of facts or "facts." You'd think that there was something bigger to make a fuss over.
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i think its a tongue and cheek lawsuit...after all they are seeking $1 in damages
     
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    Yeah, I agree (given the $1 lawsuit). They also get a bit of publicity for their paper. I'm just surprised that Moore would brag about his fact-checkers and lawyers and try to pull something like this. I'd prefer to withhold judgement till after the next round of "you're a liar; no, YOU'RE a liar!" is done.
     
  7. daniel

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    I don't think it's tongue in cheek at all. They want to establish in court that what was presented in the movie was not (supposedly) what they had published, but they're not after money. Not every lawsuit is about money. Here in ND, the ND Human Rights Coalition sued the state agency that's supposed to enforce the human rights laws. The lawsuit does not ask for any money. All it asks for is a court order requiring the state agency to do its job under the law.
     
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    Good point Daniel, some people are not concerned about the money, more about the truth. I on the other other hand would have wanted some of the millions that Moore has gotten from this movie!!! :D

    Atoyot
     
  9. Ken Cooper

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    I'm not a Michael Moore fan and it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't exagerate some of what went into that movie.

    But ...

    Probably the most disconcerting part of Michael Moore's film was the video showing President Bush continuing on for several minutes with an elementary school class after he had been told of the second airliner crashing into the twin towers (the other part of that whispered message was, "America is under attack").

    Not only was that NOT an exageration, but what amazes me is what Michael Moore did NOT say about that day (go to Google - type in the words Bush, 9/11, elementary school) and reserch for yourself. Read the minute by minute chronicles of the events written by trusted newspeople who were there (even Bush supporting news people). Read about what President Bush said to the nation and compare those words with the reality. Read about other Bush related events throughout that day. You can take what the Bush campaign has to say about leadership in a crisis and come to your own judgement decisions.

    Signed,

    A long time Republican who, for the first time since Eisenhower was president in going to vote for the Democrat.
     
  10. DonDNH

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    While Bush was with the kids in Florida, John Kerry was in a leadership meeting at the Capitol.

    Here's what the Massachusetts Democrat said July 8 when Larry King asked where he was on 9/11, according to CNN's own transcript:

    "I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting - we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation."

    The second plane hit the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m., and the plane hit the Pentagon at 9:43 a.m. By Kerry's own words, he and his fellow senators sat there for forty minutes, realizing 'nobody could think.'"
     
  11. DaveinOlyWA

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    well you may be in for a huge disappointment then. because of distribution problems, Moore will make nearly nothing for his efforts.

    what he does make, he would most likely have donated anyway just as he has done for all his movies.

    he however is in huge demand as a speaker and has had a couple very popular books, some of which are based on the movies he has made.
     
  12. Atoyot

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    Here is the latest in the Moore revisionist history movie.

    Michael Moore Defends Disputed Headline


    http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040812/.../D84DV0UG1.html

    Aug 12, 6:34 PM (ET)


    BLOOMINGTON, Ill. (AP) - Filmmaker Michael Moore makes no apologizes for his Bush-bashing documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11," and his lawyer says he'll make no apologies for its use of an Illinois newspaper headline, either.

    The (Bloomington) Pantagraph says the headline, flashed briefly in the film, came from a letter to the editor about the 2000 presidential election recount but was doctored to look like a news story. Even the date was changed.

    The newspaper fired off a letter to Moore and his production company last month that it says was lighthearted but symbolic, demanding an apology and $1 in compensatory damages.

    But an attorney for Westside Productions replied this week that Moore violated no copyright laws and did nothing misleading.

    "Baloney," said Pantagraph President and Publisher Henry Bird, who directed his lawyers to send a follow-up letter asking Moore to explain why material from the paper was altered without permission.

    Westside Productions lawyer Devereux Chatillon acknowledged that Moore was two weeks off on the date of the headline, which read: "Latest Florida recount shows Gore won election."

    But the mistake "did not make a difference to the editorial point ... and was in no way detrimental to (The Pantagraph)," the New York-based attorney wrote in a letter to the paper.

    "Fahrenheit 9/11," which opened in theaters in June, quickly became the first documentary to top $100 million at the domestic box office.