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Keep Gen ii...or get 2014 pip?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by wrothgar, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. wrothgar

    wrothgar Junior Member

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    Just saw a 2014 pip for sale....seems reasonable. I have a 2008 Gen ii that is doing well. Any one have an opinion on the move from a Gen ii to gen i pip? Things you'd miss? Improvements you'd like. Personally thinking about green plates for Ontario driving more than for ev range.

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  2. bisco

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    no spare tire or under hatch flor storage. nice car though, i'm thrilled with mine. even with the battery weight, mpg's are much improved over gen 2. i came from an 08 as well.

    biggest issue is the clogging egr system, leading to blown head gasket sometimes.

    2014 might be improved, i'm not sure.
     
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    Had a 2005 Prius and a 2012 PiP. Since the PiP did not have a spare, I was able to share from the 2005. The 2005 spare is a little undersized for the PiP but it worked to get me to the tire place to patch the tire. Not a fan of the flying buttress center console. Much preferred the open leg area in the 2005. The PiP was a lot smoother and quieter.
     
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  4. wrothgar

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    Thanks. I guess it depends on how long I think my 08 will last. Only real complaint is the suspension and the rust that's building up....

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    hard to keep track. seems like gen 2 is worse, but everyone is getting hit.

    2008 should last a long time. we haven't seen much in the way of rust being a catastrophic problem
     
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    With used car prices I'd honestly say use that money as a down payment and get a 2021 prime

    If you're on a budget and the battery is all set I'd say keep the gen 2.
     
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    I recently looked at modifying my 2010 into a plug-in, because that's all that's in my price range, and I just really like the feeling of the engine being off (but don't want the impracticality of a fully electric vehicle). Toss in some issues I have with the modern official plug in model and, yeah. I decided to just wait, since I don't love love the official plug-in model right now, but also converting is (unsurprisingly) extraordinarily impractical, especially when I am still learning about the vehicle.

    I would say if your Gen II has a fine running battery, don't worry about it. The Prime has massive upgrades in comparison to the Prius Plug-in.
    - Double the EV range
    - Practical EV speed limit (at least for where I live)
    - Engine completely off in EV even if you go pedal to metal
    - Charge mode

    If you have an issue with getting a 4 seater like me, then there's the 2020 and 2021 prius primes.

    Suffice it to say if you're really looking to add a plug, especially if you're fine with having a 4 seater, and your current vehicle runs just fine, hold off until you can afford a 2017 Prius Prime. If not ok with a 4 seater, hold off until you can afford a 2020 prius prime.

    Can't say anything about the incentives your area would have, though, and that's something for you to juggle.
     
  9. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Cheaper to keep her.
    That advice works for cars too. ;)

    Several.
    For example....you can drive a G2 without a catalytic converter for a little while while you're sourcing a replacement but you usually have to have a decatenated G3 towed.

    Are cat theft problems affecting the Canada?
    I thought things were a little more civilized in the frozen North......
     
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    I'd say for the same reason, the lack of the exhaust heat recovery system in the Gen 2 makes it the easier target for cat theft.
     
  11. Sarge

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    Hey Wrothgar,

    A fellow Halton region-er!

    I’m late replying and you probably already made the decision one way or another, but I figured I would reply anyway. :)

    I made almost the identical move 5 years ago, trading my 2006 Prius for a 2014 Plug-in, in 2016. Both were the highest trim models, as I generally keep my vehicles a long time. My original plan was to hold out with my 2006 for the soon to be released Prime, but I had almost 400k KM on my ‘06 and it needed critical major repairs (engine replacement, after HV battery rebuild) so I had no choice. I grabbed a used 2014 PiP that came up on Autotrader. Don’t regret it at all.

    Here is my opinion:
    Pros
    - Better ride
    - Much better seats, long range of motion, even for big guys like me (6’2”) still very comfortable
    - Bluetooth/iPod/USB control is much better for audio streaming
    - Bluetooth phone access is much improved (address book sync, don’t need to stop to switch phones, etc)
    - Green plate = HOV access
    - EV driving is nice and smooth, even if it is short. Occasional free “fuel”. :)
    - LED headlights are nicer than halogen (top model). Headlight washers? LOL
    - Remote AC is nice to pre-cool the cabin (if you have charge)
    - Sits lower which I prefer (very subjective)
    - Power seat and softex is very nice and adjustable (since leather/softex was never available on Gen 2 in Canada, to my knowledge…)
    - Integrated XM radio, if you are into that
    - Gen 6 Nav minor improvements (if you bother with factory Nav…)

    Cons
    - Voice commands are oddly stripped down from Gen 5 (?). (I don’t specifically remember now as I never really use it)
    - No longer have Map and Info buttons on the steering wheel (takes getting used to…. But no big deal once you do)
    - Homelink no longer available with Electrochromatic mirror from factory (though the mirror can be replaced with the enhanced mirror if it is worth ~$200 to you)
    - No spare tire (if this bothers you, it doesn’t for me)
    - Canadian Prius still don’t have any connectivity or apps (even 2022……)
    - Interior “feels” a bit smaller (snug), but still very comfortable.

    While the PiP is a fine car, the Prime is even better. If you can afford it, spending a bit more for a Prime would be an even better choice IMO if your budget allows. 17-19 models have 4 seats, 2020+ have 5. But if you have a great opportunity on a PiP, it’s also a solid vehicle if you want something inexpensive to get green plates for cruising the 403 or QEW. ;):cool:

    Cheers!
     
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