2021 Prius C models?

They also had more info on the Japanese site. I wonder how much more HP? So many nice extras but the AWD I really like. 2X power from NiMH! Fully loaded it has everything I could ever want short of a plug in. Until solid state small battery, you can forgot about a plug in this size of a car with a trunk. I bet the extra heat with the regen they went to a liquid cooled transaxle. It would be a dream if it had a tow ratting even of 1000lbs.

 

Any interior pics around?

 

There is a link with pics if you scroll down on this site.

きたぞ9年半ぶり!! 新型アクア発表発売 かつての王者は捲土重来なるか - 自動車情報誌「ベストカー」

 

Maybe all lift backs will become “Primes” and the Prius C the entry hybrid (one could hope)

 

They WERE talking about a “base” Prius that was not plug-in, but limited availability? Equals “limited” interest for me.

 

The biggest difference I could see was this:

"Since we're on the subject of firsts, the Japanese marque claims the 2022 Aqua is the first production car to use a high-output bipolar nickel-hydrogen battery. It has twice the output of the previous generation's nickel-hydrogen battery and provides better acceleration responsiveness while working together with the 1.5-liter gasoline engine. In addition, it enables the Aqua to travel at higher speeds in EV mode than before."

taken from this article:

2022 Toyota Aqua Hybrid-Only Hatchback Debuts As Japan's Prius C (motor1.com)

I guess - it could well be the fore-runner of the 2022/3 PRIUS - with some major Hybrid improvements.

 

Okay that's rad!

We love ours. I want to get one of those to replace it when the time comes.

Here Toyotayotayotayota!!!! $$$$$$$$$ waiting, I'll go earn more for a while and we will eventually have a deal okay?

The Aqua / c / NHP10 is an amazingly well thought out car. I reckon the only reason they're able to include so much technology and feature support hardware is the very high level of automation involved in production.

So let's consider: Toyota didn't merely make an improved version of the car; they've made an improved version of the machine that spits them out around the clock with minimal human attention.

That's some crazy cool business.

 

And it's got rotating seats. Hecks yeah.



A buddy of mine had this on his 1970 Chevelle. In that car there was a prop rod on the door mechanically linked to a lever on the seat swivel, so as you opened the door the seat would turn outward to ease the transition in and out of the car.

This appears to be electric (go figure) but I'm even more charged up (ha) to see touches like these.

I wonder if they'll have any on display while I'm here in Japan?

 

The Japanese testing MPG is way higher then real world. It will be maybe around 64mpg if the car ever came here.

 

They won't. Until the American public stops clamoring for SUVs like lemmings......because they have a higher margin.
And it's ALL about profits.
As long as Toyota has that model available in other countries but not the US........I will never buy another Toyota.

 

I'm estimating official EPA ratings. Yes many people get over the ratting but some aggressive drivers, not really. The C had 50mpg ratting in 2012 which I was beating like you. EPA then went to a more aggressive testing method that used high AC, more cargo and passenger weight among other changes to give an almost worst case number of 46mpg. This would be the same, I think worst case it will be 64mpg +/- 2mpg. You and I will get 70mpg ALL DAY.

 

Not quite

using other cars for comparison you are talking 50mpg in EPA form converting from JP001

In fact it doesn’t even score as well as the Gen III PRII on Japanese tests, so I guess draw your own conclusions, better than the previous Gen but unless they are “more conservative “ with the rating a 60mpg EPA is very unlikely (unless we are talking strictly city which is a maybe but more likely gonna see 56mpg city 48mpg highway)

 

Oh that would be grand. My soft quarantine ends soon, which will allow me to actually go places other than jobsite and hotel.

It's a weird scene locally though. Toyota has poured money into Olympic sponsorship. Huge fleets of official cars donated.

And then 48 hours ago they announced they were cutting all Oly-themed TV advertising in Japan in response to local anti-Olympic public sentiment. Akio Toyoda will be conspicuously absent from the opening ceremonies.

So I was kind of hoping that I'd see a little portable showroom somewhere in the Olympic park much as BMW had in London, but I may have to look further afield to see one.

 

I don't know what the JP001 stranded is but the Prius C / Aqua when it was introduced was tested on JP08 which gave an MPG of 83.4. We know it does not get anywhere near those MPGs unless you do very hardcore hypermiling

Toyota launches Aqua compact hybrid in Japan; targeting 12,000 units per month in sales - Green Car Congress

The new 2022 Aqua use the WLTC standard which Japan went to in 2019 which is stricter.

Emission Test Cycles: WLTC

 

Dang it....I really like this Prius C redesign...and Toyota decides to discontinue the C in the USA.

Bad timing on Toyota's part. With gas prices rising, I'd wager they would have sold a bunch of them. However, I understand Toyota's decision at the time.

I suppose they could reintroduce the C at some point though...but that is pretty much wishful thinking. Kind of interesting though....I have seen more small cars around here these days. Never used to see that just a couple years ago. My son who works at a "Kwik Trip" gas station says lots of people are complaining about gas prices. Maybe it will push some to actually consider a smaller, more fuel efficient car.

 

Eh, they can start bringing them back whenever they feel like it. It's not as if they scrapped the only ship that could carry them or something.

The market for subcompact cars in America is pretty small. It was reasonably well served up until maybe 2 years ago. But we still have plenty of Yarises Fiestas and Versas rolling around, for now. Eventually Americans will consume and crash all the ones we have now, and a new appetite will develop. If fuel prices go up, it may happen more quickly. If not, it'll only take longer but it'll still happen.

Beyond that, Toyota may need some time to get the production rate up to the point where they are making more than they are selling domestically.

 

I also think it is cyclical. Funny story...when we purchased our 2010 liftback a few years ago, it was at a Nissan dealership. The former owner had traded up to a MUCH larger vehicle. This was when gas prices were dirt cheap. The salesperson at the dealership admitted that they LOVE these cycles...it's what they thrive on. At least around here, it looks like we are moving into the 'downsizing' cycle a bit. We'll see if it continues. I also kind of have to laugh at how small some of these 'crossovers' are...they literally are slightly raised hatchbacks! Heck, our Hyundai Elantra GT hatchbak is larger that some of them! Buzzwords sell cars, I guess.