1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Constant Cycling Noise

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Spenny, Nov 13, 2021.

  1. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    #1 Spenny, Nov 13, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    yes, it is probably on it's way out, but could still last a long time
     
  3. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    23,316
    15,105
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Every 20 to 30 seconds is pretty bad (though some people wait until it's every few seconds :eek:). In a good one, the pressure holds up for hours if you're not using the brakes.
     
  4. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Is this what’s covered under the recall or whatever it’s called? Or does it still depend on what’s causing the issue?
     
  5. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    It would drive me crazy at that interval. Is this still called a brake booster or is it called the brake actuator?
     
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    it is a confusing part. might be the tank, but i'm not sure. there might be a 10 year warranty, you can find out at toyota.com/owners, but i think you need a trouble code.
     
    Spenny likes this.
  7. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    23,316
    15,105
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    As well it should.

    It's not a 'this' in Gen 3, it's a 'they', and the names usually throw people off.

    [​IMG]

    The thing on top is known not only as the "booster" (as you see here) but also as the "actuator", the "master cylinder", and the "skid ECU" (which it includes).

    The thing on the bottom is known as the "booster pump" and also as the "accumulator" (as you see here).

    The thing on the bottom is what you are hearing when the pump runs. But the problem making it run so often can be either in it, or in the thing on top.

    With a cheap mechanics' stethoscope, at 20 seconds between cycles, you can probably hear one or the other of them making a hissing sound during those 20 seconds. (For people who wait for it to cycle every few seconds, over a stethoscope it probably sounds like Niagara.)
     
    Spenny likes this.
  8. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    7,605
    4,460
    7
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    If the car is under 150k miles and producing the right trouble code it may still be eligible for a free replacement. A more lenient 10 year unlimited mile program expired in August for hatchbacks and will expire in December for v wagons.
     
    Spenny likes this.
  9. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Unfortunately no code. I swear they are doing this on purpose, they know they are defective, they knew it when I bought my vehicle.
     
  10. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Gotcha. I just want them to replace it. Mine has made some wacky noises. One time it sounded, I swear, like a duck.
     
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    some here feel it should have been a safety recall
     
    Spenny likes this.
  12. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Yes, I would think it should be since it can result in body harm(potentially).
     
  13. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    23,316
    15,105
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    The duck noise can occur even when the system isn't close to failing. There was a firmware update that can reduce it, and going through the long-form bleed procedure can help.

    But all that only matters if you have a system that isn't close to failure, and just is making the duck noise. In your case, at 20 to 30 second pump cycles, it's done for. Just get it replaced, and the new one won't quack.
     
  14. drbtz

    drbtz Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    102
    51
    1
    Location:
    United States
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    III

    Correct me if wrong as well, but I thought I also heard something about when replacing these two in pairs there are different versions even across same model years? I've been looking into buying these as spares but haven't pulled trigger until I'm 100% sure what I am looking for.
     
  15. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    7,605
    4,460
    7
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    Yes. The best thing to do is look it up using your vin on a Toyota parts site. Wheel size and models like the v wagon use a different master cylinder. The real issue is if you buy used. Not only could you get a bad part but it could be the wrong part number. Used sellers often go with the housing number assuming they are all the same.
     
    #15 rjparker, Nov 13, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
    drbtz likes this.
  16. Spenny

    Spenny Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    82
    25
    0
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Well it’s expensive, I’d rather get the defective part replaced by Toyota since they know it’s an issue.
     
  17. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    23,316
    15,105
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    What's the mileage?