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Safest way to remove exhaust/catalytic converter from wrecked Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by priuslyfe, Dec 29, 2021.

  1. edthefox5

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    Like others said just get a stout rope put it around the top of the door pillar between the doors throw it over the roof hook it to the 4x4 and punch it lol…
    Roll that Pos over. No way would I get under any car that’s jacked up on dirt


    Set up your phone so we can get a video of it please lol…
     
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    I don't have enough room to pull it up with a 4x4. I would be in my neighbor's yard with a truck.
     
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    I'll bet 2 fairly strong adults would have a decent shot of replicating the 4 x 4. Almost certainly a 3 person tug of war with the car would be successful. As noted by others, attach the rope to the pillar(upper) between doors... wear gloves. Alternatively 3 people should be able to push it over, but the rope/pull option is safer.
     
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    Serious question:

    Could I tip it on its side by myself? I don't want to endanger anyone else and was thinking if I can jack up one side enough...(how much would be good for the passenger-side)...then I might be able to put a hook atop the passenger side and pull it towards the driver side by myself.

    I'm most afraid of the car moving from the side to being upside-down because the sides/roof are also compromised?

    I do not know...going to call around next week to see if someone wants to remove the exhaust somehow...whether by on its side or carefully jacking it up.
     
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    here’s one way

     
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    You could do it by jacking it ridiculously high on one side say the passenger and keep putting blocks of wood or 4x4 pieces under it every 20 inches of jack until you get it stupid high then just put a grappling hook under the edge of the doors where it closes against the roof line if you must you can loop it through and tie it to the center support whatever and then just pull it over and then once it's over on its side leave the rope tight it's not going anywhere once it's on it side in the rope is sitting there taught nowhe
     
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    I would just do it like the thieves, albeit lay down a plywood sheet first, to give the floor jack some thing solid to roll on.

    Place the plywood (say 2'x4' x 3/4") on the ground around amidships, place jack on it and raise one side by pushing up on the middle of the rocker panel. Before getting under, push some tire rims and/or tree trunk sections under, for insurance.
     
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    I'm legitimately terrified of getting underneath the car now. Although i appreciate irony in general (covid protocols, politics, etc.) I don't want to be remembered as the guy who survived a roll-over car accident (even the ER docs were skeptical when I walked in) and then gets flattened by the same car (while laughably messing with the wreck being worried that his catalytic converter might get stolen).


    I noticed that it is also at a slope downward toward the passenger side. I think maybe the safest way is jacking up the drivers side and trying to push it over myself. Also there is a tree on the passenger side in case it completely rolls over. Since the rear center or gravity (or whatever you call it) is pushed inward maybe it will be easier. Also as you can see the rear driver's side wheel is parallel to the ground.

    also I guesss taking the wheels off the drivers side might make pushing it over a bit easier.

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    If you do the rope pull method (with rope long enough) you won't be endangering anyone. This is dragging on too long already, call up your strongest buddy/neighbor and give it a shot. Once on its side you can stabilize it yourself if necessary. If I was close to you, I'd come over and give it a go myself.
     
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    Thanks...I already asked someone and he said NO. Your posts were most helpful though....that and Roman history. Excited to give it a shot by myself. No more posts by me unless its an update.
     
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    You probably should have paid the owner of that bulldozer for 10 minutes of his time and had him roll it over for you while it was on that lot.
     
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    I just can't comprehend the part about how attempting to roll the car over is safer than just jacking it up and putting blocks under one end of it. The earth is not going to fail....meanwhile, potential fuel leaks, oil leaks, transaxle leaks, coolant leaks, who knows what, while the car is on it's side...jezzzz, I would have that job done in 30 minutes...

    If you think you're not capable of safely jacking it up and installing blocks, htf do you think you can safely use rigging to roll the car over onto its side? What are you going to do if you get it halfway up and you can't get it further? or stuck there? or it crashes down?

    Heck, just put an ad on CL for 700 bucks and let them take the whole car. Be done with it.
     
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    Why?
    It’s just easier to cry about it on PC than actually doing anything about it.
     
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    If you can hire someone who can tip the car on its side and remove the cat I'd suggest doing that. Whatever you do, do not crawl underneath it with some of the suggestions made here.
     
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    As long as something is holding on to the car once you pull it over like the vehicle or tractor you pulled it over with the rope or chain is taught you're pretty much staying there Take off what you want clear the area let it go and watch nothing happen it'll just lay there You can go over there and try and push it back over and it probably won't go but no don't ever stand under anything foolishly anywhere
     
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    Semi-Update:

    Well thanks for those who provided helpful advice. Initially i did want to rush into doing it but am glad i didn't.

    Yesterday I tried to tip it over with my rental 4x4 by putting tires between the car and truck and pushing while it was on jacks. I thought maybe it might be similar to the rhino.gif earlier in this thread. However I couldn't get enough vertical force so it basically just pushed the prius laterally (eventually it would off the jack stands as I suspected it might). If I had hit it with greater velocity by the 4x4 I probably would tip it over but again that's a rental (with a plastic bumper) so I treaded lightly.

    This is the setup so far. Was thinking of trying to get it higher on the front driver's side wheel but the jack-stands are the kind with the notches and not reinforced by pins so I do not know? This is the highest I can get it with my available tools. I also have a tire/wheel underneath there towards the front in the second picture. It seems pretty stable but I don't know how much so after I start trying to unbolt the exhaust system.


    This is the setup so far. Was thinking of trying to get it higher on the front driver's side wheel but the jack-stands are the kind with the notches and not reinforced by pins so I do not know? Basically reinforcing the front driver's side with two tires/wheels underneath + jack stands wherever I can fit them.

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    What is the surface under the leaves? It looks like wet dirt or even mud, and that is not a surface I would trust. In the second picture it looks like the stands are digging into that surface. If it is driveway thick asphalt then at least that shouldn't fail on you suddenly.

    Don't you have a scissors jack, like the one from that car? You can raise the car further by yourself, even on what looks like a not very stable surface. Take the wide thick block of wood which is currently under the driver's side wheel and insert it perpendicular to the long axis of the car between the two jacks. Put the scissors jack on it and raise the car. Then adjust the two jack stands. If there is more range left on the jack stands you could lower the scissors and insert another block of wood on top of the first and repeat. (If one or both of the blocks of wood suddenly splits it will be dramatic but not lethal since no part of you will be under the vehicle.) At that point you can probably get three pieces of lumber stacked under the suspension members behind the driver's side wheel, ideally with the suspension actually touching the wood (so it won't drop from any height on it). Don't leave the scissors jack in, it just provides a false sense of security. Restating the obvious, do not place any part of your body other than your hands (briefly!) under the vehicle until you are satisfied with the supports. Not a bad idea to give the (wrecked) car a few good kicks to verify that it will not shift on those supports.
     
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    Proper way to lift car on blocks. CAUTION use 3/4 plywood under your jack on dirt

     
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    It is on the ground and the ground is a bit damp. I was gonna see jacking it up on the drivers side front, putting wood reinforcements across, tire/wheels underneath that drivers side wheel and jacks on the drivers side where they currently are would be sufficient.

    Would it be OK to do that and put the wood reinforcements across diagonally (red line representing wood)?

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  20. Tombukt2

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    A little more ummmph on the pull she'll come on over. I'm surprised a bunch of partyers haven't showed up at your house to show you how to push it over about three drunks maybe four nobody be hurt either. That's just some yard fun.