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Prius 2006 with P3019 needs help

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Peterhans, Jan 6, 2022.

  1. Peterhans

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    I have a Gen 2 prius, 2006, with error code P3019. I am showing bank 9 bad as there are two cells per bank. The Prius has 70K miles and in otherwise Ok shape. Surprised that a hybrid can cause so much headache and time consuming. My dilemma is whether to replace the two cells in bank 9 or find another car. I understand low mileage driving can cause problems. I purchased the 2006 in 2015 and the Prius had only 35,000 km. A relative new car for the age. However, I understand there is a 10 yr warranty on the HV battery so the battery was near the end of life. This is the only transportation vehicle so trying to make a decision. Also, no sure of warranty but I only had the car for 7 years. Any ideas and thanks.

    I took the car to an non-Toyota shop for troubleshot and get codes. This was 20 Euros

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  2. nancytheprius

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    Your car has low mileage and not using the hybrid battery kills it! Are you opposed to just replacing the whole battery? replacing only two cells will b a very temporary solution. Also, I don’t see the need for an entirely different car, based on the information you provided. Are there other known issues? How much are new hybrid batteries where you live?
     
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    Also, I do not know the part number to search such that a mechanic can change out the module.
     
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    Toyota quoted 2500 Euros for the battery and 1000 Euros for labor. This could exceed the value of the car.
     
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    There are also no known issues.
     
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    successfully changing out the module requires up to a week depending on how many chargers you have. you will need to charge and discharge all the cells to gain capacity and you will have other modules that need to be replaced than you have codes for. It’s a 16 or 17 year old battery! If you have to pay a mechanic to just swap out a module or two you will be very disappointed in the results as it is almost never that easy
     
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    this doesn’t sound completely unreasonable. Would you be interested in buying the battery from toyota and then having your mechanic install it?
     
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    I did see some videos regarding the module replacement and this is not a plug and go. I was hoping that Toyota would provide some warranty since I only had the vehicle for seven years.
     
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    I would go from another source besides Toyota and use my mechanic. The concern is spending Euros or $$$ on a car that has the same value. I would prefer about half the cost.
     
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    you were the second owner tho and bought the car 9 to 10 years after it was made! Are you hands on or DIY at all? replacing the battery yourself is always an option too
     
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    You're in a generation too that ended in '09 That's almost 20 years ago what do you want Toyota to do mileages of no value at this point You're 20 years out almost an antique if it was furniture so I don't know what you want Toyota to do I just put a brand new battery in my '09 yours is an '05 by the looks of the dash I just put a brand new battery in an '09 That's a 20-year-old vehicle almost and the battery was 1600 American dollars and it took me about 45 minutes to put it in and be driving I don't like to buy $1,600 parts for an old car either but the car's perfect drives great gets in the mid-40s for gas mileage there's nothing else I can do even close to this old Prius without a huge payment and some unknowns like say with the bolt or a Tesla model 3 a lot of unknowns there with the Prius there's almost no unknowns A lot can happen but it's not unknown and generally can be dealt with for not a lot of money The Prius is one of the lowest cars monetarily to maintain in the world I've been driving Corollas all my life since 68 they are by far one of the best cars on the planet A Prius is predominantly a Toyota Corolla like it or not.. I would prefer no cost but that's a lot to ask isn't it
     
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    It is different! it is a lithium replacement, but is made to fit in the same housing. It would come with what you need and instructions. Look it up on youtube too, apparently it has really good reviews
     
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    I realize that the car was purchased 9 years after manufacture. First, I relied on the name and reliability. Second, this seemed like a new car because of the very low km or 22000 miles. Granted, I did not know much about hybrid except they both battery and gas operation. I am some hands on and DIY. but not a full mechanic.
     
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    The battery Nancy sent is the battery I was trying to buy I don't even know if they have stock yet these cells the round tubular things you can look them up on Alibaba.com now apparently it's much easier to buy on Alibaba than it was before I think that whole rack of cells . Is only about $1,300 on Alibaba I'm not sure of that but it's close I look on that site a lot I've looked at those tubular batteries for about 5 years then I saw Dr Prius or whoever those folks are were buying their own probably from China Alibaba somebody and then selling them to the Prius community but I couldn't buy them no matter nobody had stock nobody knew when stock was coming if you can buy a set of those I would do it right now if I could I would just have a spare battery or I'd put it in another Prius I guess my battery lasted 20 years of course our car has been driven since the day it left the showroom by the first donor 84 miles a day with four people in it commuting to work and back and then when I got it over a hundred miles a day generally with generally one person and tools and equipment in the car and it still goes strong today I just put the battery in it I have all the Christmas tree lights lit up something with the ABS but the brakes work fine I don't care I can't do anything like the Prius near the gas mileage for any money well the price of a new Prius and I don't even want to go there with the ZZ engine
     
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    The other consideration is the fuel cost since the charge is Euro/l. For example currently about $6/gallon given the currency fluctuation. I did have an Accura before that was still running with over 200K miles. So, I am looking at all the options.
     
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    At this early stage it's worth trying to find a used module and replacing the bad one... In the US a used module of similar age/miles only cost $30 and you can pull the pack & replace the module in less than a day. Some people have gotten lucky and gone a year without issue after doing this version of repair. It will also teach you everything you need to know so when you eventually replace the whole pack you can do it in a couple-few hours and don't have to pay someone a thousand Euros to do it, which is a rip-off.
     
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    It is not a lithium replacement. It is still nimh chemistry.
     
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