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Rumsfeld steps down.

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Wildkow, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. Wildkow

    Wildkow New Member

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    Go figure! This is all a conspiracy by Karl Rove, Dem's are so giddy now their heart's are going to pop out of their chest's!

    Wildkow
     
  2. Alnilam

    Alnilam The One in the Middle

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Nov 8 2006, 09:58 AM) [snapback]345600[/snapback]</div>
    I just this minute posted a parallel thread. Ignore it.

    What was your election prediction again, Kow? Slips my mind.......

    I'm just feeling so damned giddy!
     
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    livelychick Missin' My Prius

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    HOUSE OF CARDS!!!!!!!!
     
  4. jared2

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    I haven't felt so good since Clinton was president!

    I guess I won't have to move to Canada.
     
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    A bunch of the sounds from the Road Runner cartoons just played in my head, specifically the ones where Wile E Coyote gets whacked...
     
  6. efusco

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    I'm listening to Bush's press confrence right now. Never have I heard him be so contrite. Not sure how long it will last, but I think he really has had a wake up call.

    I'd sure like to see some changes in his advisors next...some people truely knowledgeable about the middle east, politics and terroism who'll speak their minds....not a bunch of 'yes men'.
     
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    You mean his speechwriters are contrite ?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Nov 8 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]345634[/snapback]</div>
    He sounds a lot like he sounded the day he got re-elected in '04. It lasted 1 day.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Nov 8 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]345642[/snapback]</div>
    Back then he was being "magnanimous" and extending an olive branch to the 49% of the country that thought he was a tool. A day later he could safely go back to giving us the finger because he had the rubber stamp.

    The rubber stamp has been revoked. Now I guess we'll find out whether he can actually be "a uniter, not a divider".
     
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    hmmm... Rumsfeld is scheduled to present a lecture on my campus tomorrow. This just made it interesting. :)
     
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    hmmm... Rumsfeld is scheduled to present a lecture on my campus tomorrow. This just made it interesting.

    Cancelled due to lack of interest.
     
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    Actually, that's not far from the truth. They still had about 1,000 tickets as of yesterday afternoon that they couldn't GIVE AWAY.

    EDIT: Moments after I posted this, an updated press release was issued, indicating about 600 tickets remained.
     
  13. TJandGENESIS

    TJandGENESIS Are We Having Fun Yet?

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    The guy they got to replace him, is a guy named Gates and a close friend of the Bush family.

    This is change?? I see two years of the Bush VETO Pen getting a workout, and the Democrats whining about that. Any change that happens because of this election, is on the doors where the name plates are.


    Nothing else. One corrupt side gets replaced by another. Such lofty speeches about the first 100 hours bringing change across the congress...please.

    Please, Democrats, prove me wrong. Please. But they won't.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Nov 8 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]345634[/snapback]</div>
    1.The democrats must work to revoke the Military Commissions Act and restore habeus corpus.
    2. Tax breaks for corporations must be recinded
    3. Troops must be withdrawn from Iraq
    4. There must be a full independent investigation of the events of 9/11.
    5. There must be a full investigation of all the billions spent in Iraq and exactly where they went.
    6. There must be a windfall profits tax on Exxon and other large oil companies, with the money to be used to develop alternative energies - wind, solar, biomass, etc
    7. Campaign financing reform is essential if the US is not to remain "the best democracy money can buy"
    8. The affluent (top 1%) must again pay their fair share of taxes


    That's a start.
     
  15. Stev0

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    What I want to know: Since Saddam was convicted of crimes he committed in the early 80s, shouldn't Rummy be convicted of aiding and abetting?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jared2 @ Nov 8 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]345667[/snapback]</div>
    There are no "musts". What we need is for both sides to compromise, which will be difficult because the country is so polarized. And how many millions of dollars and wasted congressional hearings must we endure about 9/11? No matter what they come up with, 50% of the country won't believe it. There are conspiracy theories about everything from the NASA space walks to Jimmy Hoffa to hijacked elections to Pearl Harbor to you name it.

    Now that the Dems have taken the House, and will soon have the Senate, they will have to satisfy their supporters with what they ran on, namely that they are not George Bush and that they are for change. What will they change? Pelosi is already saying that we won't withdraw troops. We need a strategy to win the war or accomplish our initial objectives- to stabilize Iraq and the region, since Saddam has been deposed. We need to quit trying to prove that the war shouldn't have been started, and figure out a way to end it. We are there- so we need to deal with it.

    The change of majority in the Congress won't do much good if there is no compromise, because the Dems don't have enough votes to defeat the veto power of the president. Meanwhile, he can issue executive orders, as Bill Clinton did when faced with a Republican majority, to go around Congress. Our governor does this all the time.

    I hope the election did serve as a wake-up call for all to work together and find some common ground.
     
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    "And how many millions of dollars and wasted congressional hearings must we endure about 9/11? No matter what they come up with, 50% of the country won't believe it."

    We owe it to the families of the victims of the criminal attacks on 9/11 to find the truth, no matter where it leads. The crime has not been solved.
     
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    Here's your hat...what's your hurry...?

    I don't think his vision of the military meshed with the realities of today's world...as I said somewhere else, he seems to me to have been this weird mix of bureaucrat and hawk and pseudo moral crusader, but not a 'real soldier' (and I mean that with honor) either in thought or deed.

    Unless this somehow affects the bigger picture, I fear it won't make much difference, though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Nov 8 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]345677[/snapback]</div>
    :D
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jared2 @ Nov 8 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]345690[/snapback]</div>
    Isn't it strange that there are many theories behind the bombing of Pearl Harbor, like we knew it was going to happen and let it happen so we could get pulled into an unpopular war, and yet nobody paid millions to the families of the victims? I think some folks pick and choose what truth they would like revealed, and who should pay for it.