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Prius Brake Creaking Noise - Almost Solved

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Gen2Override, Jan 15, 2022.

  1. Gen2Override

    Gen2Override New Member

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    Hi all! I've been a long time reader and first time poster. And without Priuschat I'd be pretty much nowhere when it comes to maintenance.

    Long story short, my '07 Prius' brakes have begun creaking. It's got 172, 000 miles. I found various videos explaining why this happens

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    this is the most common video:


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    and I naturally chose the most common reason why this may happen:

    - Dry/corrosion on caliper guiding pins causing it to seize

    So I decided to take a chance and open up the brakes and grease up everything I can lube up with Sil-Glyde (guide pins, back of pads, ears of pads, brake clips (under clips and on clips)).

    Also checked the pads. Inner pad wear was greater than outer pad wear. Inner pad was at 3-4mm and outer pad was 5-6mm. Didn't measure correctly because... Just because. Point is the inner pad is close to activating the squealing wear indicator in a few.

    {{Note: Pins were NOT dry or seized; still had good movement and some grease from the beginning.}}

    The only place I didn't grease up was the caliper piston which I sort of clean because there was some built-up debris.

    So I put it all back and it creaks everything I depress the brakes while the car is in park and the creaking gets worse or better as I depress/press the brake.

    Why is it still creaking? Could it be a problem with the caliper piston? I'll try to get a video of it soon.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. PriusCamper

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    Thanks for making the effort... Everytime I asked a mechanic their thoughts on this known problem they always say all of 'em have that problem once they get old and there's nothing wrong with it but the noise, so you just have to live with it.

    Looking forward to seeing what you report back in your next attempt to fix it. Sure hope you find an answer to this!
     
  3. ChapmanF

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    Can you isolate that sound to one corner of the car in particular?

    You can do some tests like in the video you linked (car stationary, just applying and releasing the brakes) with some of those parts flat-out removed (the slide pins, the fitting clips). The brakes won't go anywhere as long as the car isn't moving. :) It might be interesting to see if that affects the sound any.

    Have you tried with new fitting kits? They're cheap. If you get new ones, they have a dry teflon-like coating and are meant to be ungreased, so you could wipe off the grease from those spots.

    What's the shape of the channels that the fitting clips fit into? Those sometimes develop corrosion that raises the surface, and puts the squeeze on the clips.
     
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  4. Gen2Override

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    Sorry for the late reply. Work tends to get in the way of things. :oops:

    So I haven't got a chance to take the brakes apart again, because I would like to replace both the pads and rotors. And so I'm waiting for them to arrive (you have to wait for Akebono - that's a fact)

    Still, I've started to do more research and ask people I know who understand brakes. We went over everything I greased up and came to the conclusion that the one place I didn't grease was between the two shims. And that might be it.

    I still haven't recorded a video of the noise, but I'm leaning towards those shims. The new pads I ordered have only one shim on each pad and this is new (so new tech). The original pads were designed in 2004 and that's probably what they though would be best then to reduce vibration noise.

    The thing they didn't take into consideration was that these shims would contract and expand due to heat and voila you have two loose plates squeezing together metal to metal.

    I also doubt it would be the caliper piston since both sides of the car have this noise and I'm sure the RF brakes are also wearing out in a similar manner.

    What are you thoughts?

    ChampmanF - I will try after I replace both pads and rotors with the new fitting kits supplied by Akebono. If the noise persists, I will do a video testing all of the parts, especially the piston.
     
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    still waiting to see if this worked. I have this same problem and to be honest, it is pretty irritating
     
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    AGREED. I have a squeak in mine when I let off the brakes. im thinking it is the calipers pins being dry after releasing and retracting. When I get time I will take one off and clean and relube the rotor, caliper, brake assembly unit.
     
  7. mr_guy_mann

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    Can you get the noise by applying & releasing the brakes when the car is standing in park? If so, do a quick test. Press the brake pedal a few times, then set the parking brake. Press the brake again and see if the noise changed or stopped.

    A common source of noise on a car with (rear) drum brakes is a combination of "dry" brake shoe to backing plate contact points, along with lots of shoe travel.

    I carefully lift the shoes up and apply high temperature brake grease to the "contact nubs" on the backing plates. Then I adjust the rear brakes per the service manual.

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