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Gone - no more PRIUS in Australia

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by alanclarkeau, May 11, 2022.

  1. john1701a

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    It doesn't tell us the full story. To start a new chapter, you must first end the current chapter.

    If Prius is no longer being sold, it makes shifting over to a PHEV only approach much easier.
     
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    All I know is - I won't buy a car with low door sills. The Camry, Corolla and RAV4 all have short ingress heights than the Prius, so I'd either be a Tacoma hybrid client, or somebody else's hybrid client.
     
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    Hopefully the next gen Prius Prime's style will not be so 'different' - else it to may start to see diminished sales. And with incentive cash / tax credits close to exhaustion? That may cause another hit because there is a ton of competition unlike a decade ago.
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    No real idea - I haven't followed trucks/utes at all. I have no idea why they're so popular. I had a lift in one yesterday - and the back-seat was one of the least comfortable places I've sat for a long time - and getting out nothing like as easy as a PRIUS.

    COROLLA Wagon - selling like Hotcakes in EU and UK - but TOYOTA refuses to bring it here (or USA).

    It's a far, far better car to drive - like actually fun - than any which went before - and without the issues Gen 3 had.
     
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    In Related News - just hit:

    "Hyundai Ioniq axed in Australia" - hybrid, plug-in hybrid or fully-electric drivetrains.

    "A reason for the decision has not been confirmed" - but the guess is that they're stopping global production - which is very different from PRIUS.

    Mind you - I've seen almost no IONIQs on the road either.
     
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    Ooh - that does look good.

    I believe the word on the street is that estate cars / station-wagons are a death-knell to car makers in the USA. A few odd people ... like me who now would be OK with owning one after owning my first hatch back (well, first in many years - this is car number 54 or something like that) ... would buy them, but then that's it.
     
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    In my time - only 20 cars. 3 People Movers, 4 wagons, 7 sedans, 6 hatches. I'd buy another wagon in a heartbeat - best of all worlds.
     
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    alan, have fuel prices increased there?
     
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    Sure have - I saw $2.16/litre a week ago - was $1.22/litre 12 months ago - and 99c/litre November 2020
     
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    amazing, same reaction from the public as here. basically a shrug of the shoulders
     
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    I guess what can you do - apart from drive a PRIUS. Goes 1000km or so on a tank, and even then doesn't cost too much to fill. I have a giggle at the SUV beside me - which costs 3 times as much to fill - and will go ½ as far. And still only seat 5 - probably with only one person most of the time like mine.
     
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    Did you do a conversion from AUD to USD? Unfortunately I know what your talking about; I've got a large 4x4 SUV for camping, fishing, and hunting. It's gets 17 mpg on a good day, while my daily Prime get 100+mpg - talk about sticker shock when I have to fill that tank. It averages just over 300 miles a tank; while the Prime averages 1K+ miles per tank (once a month fill-ups). I used to keep the tank full; so I'm ready to take-off at anytime. I now fill up halfway to my destination; unfortunately the 24 hrs. gas stations are usually the most expensive.:(:cry::censored::sleep:

    Gotta pay for your hobbies.....
     
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    no - Aussie dollars.
     
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    AUD=USD and 3.8L=gallon; $2.16/L is equivalent to $5.70/gal; that's about what we're paying here in California. The rest of the states are just approaching or just above $4.00/gal. Mainly due to state, local taxes, and fuel formulation to reduce smog formation. Hawaii, California, and New York are among the highest states/provinces in fuel cost.
     
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    Ouch!!!; but you've always been expensive ($6.346/gal).:eek::D:cry::ROFLMAO:

    My past border crossings; I've always fueled up before crossing. Usually a few townships away, to avoid the line of Canadian license plates at the gas stations, along the border.(y) The same for Mexico; their prices are actually cheaper - but you never know what your getting at the pumps. The few times I had to fill up down there; I had to replace my fuel filters. They were clogged up, whereas I've driven numerous cars with more than 150K miles, with the original fuel filter still in place.
     
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    I think it converts $6.69 USD per US gallon. Using 1.29 exchange rate and relying on the accuracy of this page.

    Still, I'm not stressing, putting in maybe 20 liters, every 2~3 months. But for someone needing a daily driver, driving more of a gas guzzler, it's punishing.
     
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    :((n):whistle: Your correct; I somehow "fat-fingered" 2.16 instead of 2.28 into the exchange calculator.
     
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    The Prius was meant to be a platform for hybrid technology and it's a pity Toyota didn't utilise that fully for the 4th Gen. Yes I appreciate the improvements they made to the ride and handling (anyone who hasn't driven or ridden in a 4th gen that had a previous generation Prius owes it to themselves to try it out) but it didn't really push the boundary. I'm sure there's a diminishing point of return but that's why there's the PHEV and eventually BEV that I thought Toyota might pursue.

    Again, the Prius Prime is a good car for 2017 - amazing mpg, great electric efficiency and relatively affordable (moreso if you include EV incentives). But in 2022, they really need to step it up for Gen 5. It needs to get 60mpg combined. The Prime needs to be class-leading in packaging, range and efficiency.

    Put the 61kWh Panasonic battery in the Prime - sure it'll get less range than the competition but given it'll be more aerodynamic than the bZ4X, it should at least match the Bolt/Bolt EUV in range (And definitely surpass the LEAF). Problem is, I don't think Toyota can match GM's pricing on the Bolt.
     
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    I find it strange the Prime has a 250wthr/mile rating

    that is good but not a lot better than the rather stubby Bolt

    I guess an EV needs to go to more aggressive aerodynamics to break away from the crowd by any significant marg, Aptera is claiming 10 miles per kwhr 100wthr/mile